The ceaseless chatter of catches and cures conditions and condemns them to such a life


--- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com, pallawi wrote:
> >
> > (Pallawi, you are confusing me here. i think you are saying that
> > you are giving bandhans for what seem to you like selfish
> > reasons to do so, and yet you say that < you need to do so
> > anyway. i don't quite understand this. Can you please explain so
> > that i can understand better what you are saying and i will be
> > happy to try and help.)
> >
>
> well, I am asking WHY should anybody give bandhan when
> everything has to happen by HER will. When on one hand I am
> accepting her Will saying 'you are the doer' then why on other
> hand I am forcing my own desires by giving bandhans to happen it
> in any particular way.
> I am talking about bandhans which are asked by sy to give for
> people in need or the bandhans we give before we start doing
> something.
>
> Thanks Violet for taking time and helping me out to understand
> this tough puzzle yet so easy though.
> It is tough as long as we involve our brains and logical
> thinking into that and it becomes easy as soon as we attain that
> state of enlightenment.I understand that, once I will reach to
> that state there won't be any question left. Until that either I
> should try not to use my funny logics or try to accept certain
> things as hypothesis.
>
> Last Friday I read this excerpt of Shrimataji and decided not to
> think too logically. So in a way my question no more requires any
> further clarification but would be happy if you can share your
> thoughts and knowledge.
>
> Jai Shri Mataji
> Pallawi
>
>
>
>
> pallawi wrote:
> I often think and wonder about this and still in search of an
> answer.
>
> When I say with great affirmation that 'You are the doer and You
> are the enjoyer' which to me means that everything that happens in
> my life and around me (mahamaya )is done by HER and definitely for
> good whatever I understand the depth of goodness and significance
> or not. The success and failures,the happiness and pain .......
> everything is indeed the prasad (gift) from my mother.
>
> Then why I need to give 'bandhans' for things I do? As I think
> giving bandhan does mean that i want some sort of success in the
> task/HER attention /want in a particular way. But why ? If I am
> just HER instrument and whatever has to happened is HER Will ?
>


Dear Pallawi,

Giving bandhans to do things is like using lemons and chillies to cure catches. These are for newcomers who enter the Sahaja Yoga kindergarten classes. At this early stage it is the best aid available to focus their attention - have you seen how children are fascinated by toys and put so much attention on them? The same goes for all external rituals which are mere aids to help focus attention.

But as you progress you will soon realize that what really helps to do anything or cure catches is attention ............ and nothing else. i must emphasize _as you progress_ because i do not want daily footsoaking or shoebeating SYs to think they are included. Even if you are putting bandhans know that you are still in kindergarten because such conditionings obscure the spiritual progress of using the immensely effective attention of the thoughtless state to solve all problems. As long as you use external rituals this far superior method will always be under-utilized.

And all your most difficult and complex questions will be answered in this thoughtless state. Once you have attained and sustained it, and merged with the Shakti within, there will be nothing to ask. You will always want to be Silent within as the thoughtless state is the source of vast spiritual powers. You absolute need it to first heal and stabilize this fragmented human mind. So throw away all kindergarten lemons, chillies and questions and learn how to empower and make yourself your own master. Pallawi, you must end all forms of external rituals no matter what the subtle system SYs tell you - this is of utmost importance because i know how fanatical they are. The sad truth is that despite years they have been unable to use the thoughtless state as the ceaseless chatter of catches and cures conditions and condemns them to such a life.

As Violet has correctly said, it will be very enlightening to read Shri Mataji's teachings below:

"All that happens in the thoughtless state is enlightened. Light never talks. If you switch on the light in the room, the light won't speak or give you any ideas. It would just make everything visible. The same is true about the light of thoughtlessness. First become thoughtless and then doubtless. Then all your doubts go and you know that there is some power that works. It works very fast and is all subtle. You will be amazed how it happens. This is also about time. I never look at a watch. But my real watch is in the thoughtlessness.

If you are thoughtless God takes you everywhere as if on his hands. He makes all arrangements. He knows everything and there is no need to tell him about anything. But you must see whether you are in the main stream or not. If you are not in it then you are stuck up somewhere on the bank; then the current comes and takes you in twice or thrice, but again you are on the bank. Then you say 'Mataji, nothing goes smoothly for me'. It won't because you are entangled." Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (Nirmala Yoga, 1982)


"Because this mind, which is just a bubble as I told you and is so limited that it cannot comprehend the beauty, the glory, and the expanse of reality. This mind is just a collection of all the garbage we should say, which we have to somehow or other deny and tell ourselves that I have to go beyond my mind. This so-called mind of mine has done no good for me. This 'mind' of mine which has been all the time controlling me is just like the watch we have made and which is controlling us or like the computer that controls us. We have to be careful that we are the ones who have created this mind and this mind has no business to control us.

Now, once your attention goes beyond the mind - only the Sahaja Yogis will understand this point very clearly. When this mind goes beyond the thoughts, then the manipulation of the attention is very important. Then whatever you manipulate means you take this attention to this or to that. You will be surprised how dynamic you become, how effective you become and how knowledgeable you become. Because once you can take this attention to anything you want, immediately there is light on that issue, on that person, on that problem and you see how it works out, how it helps."

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (21.03.1996, Delhi)


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