Coming back to the local
From: "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org@...>
Date: Sun Feb 5, 2006 6:47 pm
Subject: Re: Coming back to the local collective.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Violet"
> Dear Jagbir and All,
> i am happy that things have worked out and i am going back
> collective (along with my hubby) who also comes with me.
i am happy for you Violet (and your hubby too) that you can
friends and like-minded spiritual souls after a long absence.
> In some ways i have enjoyed the experience of being away
> local collective because it gave me a greater sense of the
> spiritual picture in my life, and in other ways i have not
> being away from the local collective, because i truly
> collective meditation and collective pujas. There is
> like collective meditation and pujas that is very
> satisfying and uplifting, except my own experience of deep
> meditation on the Adi Shakti within myself.
Violet, you really missed the collective, didn't you? There
doubt about that. It will be interesting to know the growth
while in exile, compared to the stagnant collectives. You
experience some awkward moments that were removed while
details that nourished you to your present state.
> i just do not want to be put into an `organizational box',
> all. i want the freedom to be myself, my own Spirit, and
> ruled, regulated, or `boxed in'.
That will be quite difficult Violet, unless you are
to regress backwards. It is not easy to stand out because
understand your spiritual maturity and balance while living
in the wilderness here. So be upfront and transparent. Voice
protest if they try to mould you to their "108 rules and
to be an obedient catch-free SY".
> i also want to go because i love to go and i have much joy
> going, but i never want to feel obligated to go, which
> the joy.
The collective should be thankful that you are returning.
species should nurture their wounded and dying with all the
> i don't necessarily want to get involved in all collective
> activities such as catering and money raising for example,
> i live far away, and i feel my work is on these forums and
> how i do the work in my own life for Shri Mataji.
You are logically correct, femininely intuitive and
matured Violet to feel that way. i assure that your
theological background infused into your work on the
pay off many times over. i had you in mind too when the
change the web format to Textpattern was taken. The best and
vital work for Shri Mataji is yet to come. You will probably
your entire life to usher Her Divine Message onto human
consciousness. Always channel your energies to what you love
Work in projects that will nourish, sustain and deepen your
Nothing beats working for the Adi Shakti within. (Your
still involved with Her external aspects.)
> i also would like the collective to grow spiritually in
> more and more in such a way that new people will be very
> welcome, accepted, nurtured, loved. This state can only be
> if yogis who are already there are accepting each other
> of external differences or differences of individual
> opinions/experiences. After all, it is the Divine Element
> which is the Absolute Truth that connects and binds us as
> Collective Being, not the differences in opinion.
As i mentioned earlier, you are going to experience some
moments. Few SYs are at your level and we are not talking
those holding Ph.Ds in chakralogy and micromatka
it will better you speak up if they insist you to return to
weekly cleansing (in order to deprogram your mind and
body of exile catches. i think you will find that under
of "108 rules and treatments to be a obedient catch-free SY".)
> As long as a person behaves dharmically, i see no need for
> regulations, and 'boxings-in' to be the order of the day,
> all yogis have to have the same opinions on everything in
> be accepted.
Do not allow management robots to make you drones of those
representing the Will of Shri Mataji. Never empower those
to take away your individuality. Always know that you can
here and we will make sure domineering characters like JN,
their lackeys are diced up into skewer able souvlaki sizes. i
dislike those who want to control SYs by verbal bullying and
bark incessantly at them. But those who pick the `weaker'
sex will definitely be bitten ............... and
barked at in public to make sure that insults aggravates
injury too. That is the only way to stop such dry and
characters from bothering you. Through experience I have
such bullies cannot be reasoned with. i hope they read this
> Provided a person behaves dharmically, i also do not see
> reason why one yogi should tell another yogi what to do,
> right and what is wrong, because no yogis is 100% right
> yogi is 100% wrong either; only the Absolute Truth is 100%
> so i feel we need to be flexible and appreciate and
> other's differences. After all, that is what makes
> interesting to each other. If we were not all 'different
> the Divine' and all the same, what a boring life this
would be. It
> is the differences in each of us, that allow us all to
> other with our different strengths in different areas of
> spiritual lives. i definitely do not claim to be a perfect
> that is for sure! i think as long as i am in this body, i
> never be a perfect person.
When a species is on the endangered list utmost care must be
to ensure they are protected and nourished to sustain their
through a crisis. i doubt if management SYs have learnt this
That is why a "DO NOT DISTURB" is necessary.
> So everyone, is different. We all have these different
> permutations and combinations. We all are working at
> spiritually. What works for one person, may not work for
> That is why each person has to become their own guru in
> with the Mother within who is our real Guru, and will
> from within, when we ask Her.
You are the exception rather than the norm Violet. Marking
attendance at the weekly cleansing will remind you of the
between being your own guru and following the collective
will be unable to comprehend your belief or will nod
agreement in order not to offend you. Their attention and
of senses has always been on the external, physical Shri
That is why management SYs were up in arms at my mention
that it is
possible to meditate on the Divine Mother sans image. You
make such a heretical statement ......................... to the ignorant.
> Jagbir, i want to ask you... is what i expect from my
> collective too much to ask for, or am i right in
> just to be left to follow my own individual spiritual path
> as a Sahaja Yogi and as a guru of myself and at the same
> desiring to have fellowship with other Sahaja Yogis who
> accept me on that basis and not try to tell me what to do
> to think?
Violet, you are absolutely right in requesting your desire
your own guru be unconditionally accepted by the rank and
can assure you that they will one day move in your direction
take that path. It is just a matter of time before the
of Shri Mataji will leave them initially bewildered and
Then they will have to look for Her within themselves, in
Sahasraras. They thus should accept you on that basis and
not try to
tell you what to do or how to think. In fact the opposite is
presently required, or will have to be sought urgently after
leaves us. So please do not come down from the mountain to
the view from the plateau they are collectively standing.
they see what you have experienced from a higher
> Of course, i am happy to make contributions to the local
> collective, and have agreed to write and help out with
> Program Pamphlets and similar things, but publishing and
> is what i like to do, so i am definitely pleased to help
> that way and it also makes me feel that i am valued for
what i can
Do not be taken in by their "write and help out with Public
Pamphlets". Some of our 'leaders' are like politicians
the art of patronizing and wooing. Their sense of belonging
elite club does inflate their ego and believe of being
the commoners like you and me. Their brainstorming sessions
always been with chosen grey matter members. Maybe things
to change with the recent dismantling of the SY power
belatedly initiated more by the crisis of abject failure
debilitating demise caused by clashing egos and power
will let you know when this Brahminnical apex is completely
and mixed to the point of being indistinguishable from the
untouchable sudra base of night-soil carriers like me.
But everything is alright Violet and going according to Her
Always remain your own master and you will be allowed to
participate. Just stand on the Truth and do not yield even
to any human or external organization. Perhaps your exile
necessary after all.
Jai Shri Mataji,