John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the activities of the owner of www.adishakti.org
"The truth is that mystics understand mystics, and others cannot. Elaine Pagels made a great effort in her book, Beyond Belief: The Secret Gospel of Thomas, yet to anyone on the path, it's apparent that in spite of her years of scholarship on the Nag Hammadi gospels, she still seems an outsider, looking in on something that she admires, but cannot follow. I mean no disrespect to Dr. Pagels she's simply in the same position as the overwhelming majority of adults on the planet. Factual knowledge can't transcend the ego— there must be a willingness to be utterly changed by that Reality which is beyond the mind, beyond concepts, and yes, beyond belief."
The Gospel According to Thomas — Saying #1
These are the secret words spoken by the living Jesus, and transcribed by Didymus Judas Thomas. And Jesus said this:
"Whoever stumbles upon the meaning of these words shall not taste of death."
The Gospel According to Thomas begins with an explosive declaration: anyone (it doesn't matter who) discovering the true meaning of this document's forthcoming words—even if the meaning is "stumbled upon" by accident, one could presume—will "not taste death," and possesses immortality.
Audacious words, to be sure.
It is something about the document's forthcoming words themselves, which have the power to impart eternal life? Or is the meaning perhaps deeper and more paradoxical?
A clue is offered by the words that introduces this first saying: "These are secret words spoken by the living Jesus..." Why are the words "secret"? And who is "the living Jesus"?
The words are secret because their meaning remains hidden to all who haven't first realized their real Essence, our true Identity. Without first knowing (through Gnosis) who you are—who you really are, behind all appearances to the contrary—the deepest meaning of Thomas remains utterly opaque and incomprehensible. But to those who do know our true Identity the meaning of these "secret words" has been revealed already, and death is already known to be impossible.
Appearances—and that is all this universe can offer—are deceiving.
So, who are we then—really?
B. Thomas Tainter
www.passersby.org/blog/
From: Viktor Bondar
To: "Yura" < inspired@...>
Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:23:59 +0200
Subject: Fw: Hi Viktor
John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the activities of the owner of www.adishakti.org, who used to be in SY but clearly isn't a Sahaja Yogi now, and is openly critical of all Sahaja leadership, including, at times Shri Mataji Herself.
He is somewhat eccentric and for example, advocates not using a photo of Mother when meditating, not footsoaking etc. The owner of this site, one Jagbir Singh of Canada is on a crusade to spread his own eccentric, supraconscious view of what Sahaja Yoga is, and where possible we should advise people not to go there - although of course, individuals are free to do what they like.
John tells me that the web site http://inspired.kiev.ua/about/ links to www.adishakti.org
Obviously, I don't know the owner of that web site, Yuriy Linnyk, whether he is Sahaj or not, but in the event that he is known to you, is it possible that you might prevail upon him to remove the link as it contains much erroneous and inaccurate information. Yuriy lists adishakti.org before the official Sahaj Yoga website.
Much love and best wishes
Alan
Jai Shri Mataji
A revealing email that indicates that Alan, John and Viktor were in cahouts with each other, but not 'in cahouts' with the Incarnation of the Divine Mother/the DIVINE MOTHER
Dear Jagbir and all,
i would like to comment on this email, some details involved, how it impacted on some people, and how this kind of "control" (and there is no other word for it) has probably impacted on many more people than we know:
> From: Viktor Bondar
> To: "Yura" < inspired@>
> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:23:59 +0200
> Subject: Fw: Hi Viktor
>
> John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the
> activities of the owner of www.adishakti.org, who used to be in SY
> but clearly isn't a Sahaja Yogi now, and is openly critical of all
> Sahaja leadership, including, at times Shri Mataji Herself.
>
[John Noyce was a member of our forum, and participated in it. He communicated with forum members, as if he was a 'genuine' member of the adishakti forum. He was actually on the forum to try and contradict or catch-out Jagbir wherever he could. Other times, John would agree with Jagbir and call him 'brother' (or to that effect). Alan told the truth when he said that: "John Noyce of Australia has been keeping a close eye on the activities of the owner of www.adishakti.org".... (Of course, neither Alan or John ever expected us to get a copy of that email, in which they revealed/admitted their acts of collaboration against the adishakti website that had been initiated by the DIVINE MOTHER HERSELF! By the Divine Mother's Grace, we were given "hard evidence" of what we knew was happening, but for which we did not have proof until then.
The way it must have worked is that John kept an eye on Jagbir on Jagbir's own forum (that's awful if you realize how trustworthy and honest Jagbir is!) and both Alan and John must have used the information gleaned to misconstrue what Jagbir was saying. The problem was that Alan and John were misconstruing what Jagbir was saying, based on their devised SYSSR, which is a corruption of the full truth of the Kingdom of God, that Shri Mataji, the 2nd Paraclete that Jesus sent, gave. Alan and John could not see outside the confined subtle system box that they had created for themselves and their greatest desire seems to have been to confine others to that box - in perpetuity!
Alan's email to Viktor was simply forwarded by Viktor to Yura, without any consolation from Viktor to Yura. How awful! It sounded so official and detached, when it was nothing of the sort since John (whom Alan was in cahouts with) was a member of our forum. Jagbir and myself knew what John was really up to. He was trying to implicate Jagbir in any way he could, trying to make Jagbir look like a fool, like an 'eccentric'. Although Jagbir knew that, he was still "fair" in allowing John to be a member of the forum. (That is astute of Jagbir when i consider how John was instrumental in myself being dropped from the local collective news notifications and/or forum that i used to have access to, through his moderatorship.) So, there seemed to be no reciprocation there; cut and dried! Where Alan and John are concerned, it seemed all about "Control" with a capital "C". i am sure SYs would have been appalled had they known what was really happening, but on the other hand the SYs just seemed oblivious, and didn't realize that the adishakti site is of utmost importance to Shri Mataji's legacy and both the Incarnation of the Divine Mother and the DIVINE MOTHER HERSELF were directly involved in its eventuality! (Now, we don't want anything to do with the SYSSR Sahaja Yoga, because of the people that are running it, and who have corrupted Shri Mataji's message.)]
> He is somewhat eccentric and for example, advocates not using a
> photo of Mother when meditating, not footsoaking etc. The owner of
> this site, one Jagbir Singh of Canada is on a crusade to spread his
> own eccentric, supraconscious view of what Sahaja Yoga is, and
> where possible we should advise people not to go there - although
> of course, individuals are free to do what they like.
>
[Jagbir, of course, has never been what Alan describes, i.e., 'on a crusade to spread his own eccentric view of what Sahaja Yoga is'. In fact, John should have known that, having been on our forum for so long. But to his detriment he was there for the wrong reason. In fact, i believe it is Alan and John who have been most instrumental in helping to form an eccentric view of Shri Mataji's teachings of Sahaja Yoga. Also, i believe it is largely their efforts/hands-on work in the media department, with their eccentric view of Sahaja Yoga as the SYSSR (Sahaja Yoga Subtle System Religion) that has made Shri Mataji's full message of Sahaja Yoga into a cult religion. i believe the media has done this through the careful but concise 'weaning out' of Shri Mataji's Identity, Mission and Message.]
> John tells me that the web site http://inspired.kiev.ua/about/ links
> to www.adishakti.org
>
[Yura was a member of our forum and had been intricately involved in the computer technology/admin of it - helping Jagbir. He knew about the mystical evidence and seemed to believe in it. He was, both, a member of his local collective as well as a working member of our forum. However, after this heavy email from the 'bullies' Alan and John, he got scared off. It was too much for him, coming from a previously communistic country. So, thanks for your work, Alan and John. But you are what you are, and if people are not strong enough to stand up to your tactics, then they cave in to you. We have learned that lesson, which is why, of course, we have to stand up to bullies like you. In fact, until the followers of Shri Mataji become like ganas and can stand up to bullies like you, they will remain mediocre. It is not just about giving Shri Mataji's Identity, telling about Her Mission and Message, but one also has to stand up against negativity, even if it is personally painful and one loses a local collective over it.]
>
> Obviously, I don't know the owner of that web site, Yuriy Linnyk,
> whether he is Sahaj or not, but in the event that he is known to
> you, is it possible that you might prevail upon him to remove the
> link as it contains much erroneous and inaccurate information.
> Yuriy lists adishakti.org before the official Sahaj Yoga website.
>
[There must have been no question that Yuriy was Sahaj, otherwise why would John and Alan have gone after him? That said, it is important to note that both Alan and John worked together closely to undercut support for the (mystical) evidence that Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi said would be forthcoming via special personalities from Montreal, Canada - to confirm Her claim that She is an incarnation of the DIVINE MOTHER. Since Jagbir's site is based on the mystical evidence given by the DIVINE MOTHER, by Alan and John saying that Jagbir's site is "erroneous and inaccurate" they are actually working against the Incarnation of Shri Mataji by refuting the evidence given by the DIVINE MOTHER! In other words, they are thereby undermining Shri Mataji.
An observation i would like to make, is, if the adishakti site was eccentric and erroneous as Alan and John stated/implied, then why did Alan and John not relax about the site? Instead, it was full steam ahead, whereby they went to absurd/extreme lengths to have merely "one person" de-link from the adishakti site! (Who knows how many others they have done this to?). The fact that, despite their words they took such drastic action against Jagbir's site, shows that they knew the truth of Jagbir's site. More to the point, they knew that the truth of Jagbir's site had the power to destroy their SYSSR, which they preferred, after having edited out Shri Mataji's Identity, Mission and Message to the world. That is even more obvious today, with their AUM initiative.]
violet
May 25, 2011
Dear disciples of the Paraclete,
Just can't believe i found this:
The Paraclete Shri Mataji "Actually, thank God they have found out now the book written by Thomas who has described Gnostic way of life, where gnya means 'to know.' In Sanskrit language, gnya means 'to know,' gnya. So he has described very nicely the gnostic life. This was the Gnostic Bible, or whatever we call it, saying about a personal experience of achieving God realization, Self-realization. It talks about Sahaja Yoga out and out."
The Paraclete Shri Mataji
Christmas Puja, Pune, India 25 Dec. 1987
So we are 100% on the right track! We should read the appended Fri May 13, 2011 post again. It will confirm, yet again, that critical aspects of Shri Mataji's message have been edited out by those in charge of Sahaja Yoga.
The appended post not only vindicates the past and but also comforts the future: "Without question it is Jesus! Again, and again, and again, and ........ again. Absolutely! 100%! No question about this finality! Take a leather sandal and each hit my Sahasrara 108 times if i ever waver! You have my word that my head will be offered if i ever deviate, or err!"
And you have Shri Mataji's word that the Gospel of Thomas is "a personal experience of achieving God realization, Self- realization. It talks about Sahaja Yoga out and out", then deviating or erring is now out of question.
When Shri Mataji told us back in 1987 that the Gospel of Thomas "talks about Sahaja Yoga out and out", She meant it explains Sahaja Yoga most precisely. One does not say "out and out" unless conviction is unshakable. Yet not a single SY since 1987 bothered to check. Neither did any country leader, WCASY member, coordinator, Sir C.P. or anyone else for the matter.
Today is May 25, 2011 and Shri Mataji has died. Nearly a quarter century has passed since She told us about Thomas. We are beginning to resurrect Her core message of Self-realization, starting with the Gospel of Thomas. We should feel good that we are no longer diseased by the SYSSR and will attain Self-realization exactly as Shri Mataji and Jesus wanted.
For those in SY collectives and here too, it is going to take a long time to rid oneself of the SYSSR. You will have to let go completely of the SYSSR/SY collectives if you want to achieve Self-realization. i can assure you that the SYSSR is not Self-realization, but only the brief, initial rising of the Kundalini (being born of the Spirit). You do not need the SY collective, or any other person for the matter to attain Self-realization. On the contrary, you are in grave danger of not attaining the salvation (moksa) promised by both Jesus and the Paraclete as you allow intermediaries to lead you i.e., the priests and bishops of Sahaja Yoga preaching their SYSSR.
"Pagels concludes:
"Could the title of The Gospel of Thomas—named for the disciple who, tradition tells us, went to India—suggest the influence of Indian tradition?"
Dr. Marvin Meyer, Professor of Bible and Christian Studies at Chapman University, is one of the foremost authorities on Gnosticism; the Nag Hammadi Library (having edited the first edition of the English translation); and so-called apocryphal, or non-canonical, texts.
He studied the
"...early form of spirituality that emphasizes gnosis, or 'knowledge'— mystical knowledge; knowledge of God and the essential oneness of the self with God. This spirituality is commonly described as 'gnostic,' but there was a debate in the ancient world over the use of the term, and that debate continues to the present day among scholars. Such a direct approach to God as is to be found in the gnostic spirituality requires no intermediary—after all, God is the spirit and light within—and the evidence from the early Church, and the heresiologists (heresy hunters) within the Church, indicates that the priests and bishops were not pleased with these free-thinking gnostics."
In gnostic texts,
"Jesus is primarily a teacher and revealer of wisdom and knowledge, not a savior who dies for the sins of the world. For gnostics, the fundamental problem in human life is not sin, but ignorance; and the best way to address this problem is not through faith but through knowledge."
The Gospel of Thomas: The Enlightenment Teachings of Jesus
Robert Wolfe, Robert Wolfe, Karina Library (Nov 11, 2010) pp. 37-38
That knowledge must be complete and not corrupted. Unfortunately, those who took over and organized in the name of Jesus and Shri Mataji have edited out the most important of their teachings i.e., the knowledge or gnosis of Self-realization and life eternal. The difference between the Church/Sahaja Yoga is that of heaven and earth.
This will be your last birth on earth if you follow both Jesus and the Paraclete Shri Mataji. That finality is promised, and the Cool Breeze confirms evolution into the eternal afterlife. The Spirit World (Heaven) awaits all who achieve Self-realization. Please do not allow the negativity of corruption and editing out of knowledge make you fall when the end of a multi-million-rebirth journey is so near.
The Supreme Devi awaits your arrival. She is the Mother that Jesus and all other incarnations meditate on in the Spirit World. She is the Holy Spirit that Jesus talks about in the Gospel of Thomas:
"The second idea sees behind the human motherhood of Mary the motherhood of the Holy Spirit. The ancient Roman baptismal creed therefore has the parallel formulation 'born from the Holy Spirit and Virgin Mary', Believers experience the motherhood of the Holy Spirit in their own 'miraculous birth' from the Spirit of God. That is why the Gospel of John directly precedes its statement about the incarnation of the eternal Word by saying: 'But to all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave power to become children of God; who were born, he gave power to become children of God; who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God' (1.12, 13). If those who believe in Christ are 'born from the Spirit' to be God's children, as the metaphor says, then the Holy Spirit is the divine mother of believers—and of course the 'virgin mother.' The ancient Syrian and the more modern Moravian doctrine about 'the motherly office of the Holy Spirit' has its roots here, as well as in the function of the Paracelete, who comforts as a mother comforts....
When we remember the feminine symbolism about the nature and activity of the Spirit which we find in Jewish, Syrian and Christian traditions, this idea is not wrong or inappropriate. In the Gospel of Thomas, Christ talks about the Holy Spirit as his 'mother'."
The Way of Jesus Christ: Christology in Messianic Dimensions
Jurgen Moltmann, Harpercollins (December 1990) pp. 83-84
So, again, do not fall down by following the Church or the Sahaja Yoga organization. Just follow the teaching and knowledge of Jesus and the Paraclete that has been edited out by them.
"[...] what Jesus taught — which was of real meaning in his life — was not about founding a new religion, a church riddled with priestly mediators between "sinful man" and forgiving God. This corruption of his message was long suspected..."
The Gospel of Thomas: The Enlightenment Teachings of Jesus
Robert Wolfe, Karina Library (November 11, 2010) p. 204
Of all the gospels, it is the Gospel of Thomas that overwhelmingly confirms Shri Mataji's Self-realization (Atmajnana). It leads to the Kingdom of God (Spirit World) promised by both Jesus and the Devi. Absolutely!
regards,
jagbir
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