Just tell others about the Divine Message and give them
self-realization
From: "jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@yahoo.com>
Date:
Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:35 pm
Subject: Just tell
others about the Divine Message and give them
self-realization
---
In
adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com,
"jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@y...> wrote:
>
> The only way you can be free to be your own master is to
simplify
> and protect the heart and soul of Shri Mataji's teachings
i.e.,
> spreading the Divine Message to humanity. Just tell others
about
> the Divine Message and give them self-realization to
continue on
> their own. All they need to do is to meditate twice a day
and be
> daily conscious that the Last Judgment and Resurrection is
taking
> place. There should be no need to do any external rituals
like
> havan, shoe beat, string burning, etc. because the Mother
> Kundalini and Cool Breeze can by far take care of all
problems.
> Compared to the later, all forms of cures and treatments
pale in
> significance and effectiveness. Moreover these rituals
will be
> rejected by most non-Hindus as they are not found in the
Holy
> Scriptures. ...
>
From: "Bilge Celebi" <bilge108@...>
Date: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:30 am
Subject: Muslim beliefs and conditionings
Dear Sahajis,
Being a Turkish Sunni Muslim myself, and living in United
Arab
Emirates, I will try to write about how to go about things
with
Muslims.
I would like to remind you that what I will say here is
based only
on my experience and impressions, there certainly may be
exceptions,
and maybe other better ways to approach the case.
At the programs for newly arrived muslims, when we introduce
Sahaja
Yoga we usually say that this is a meditation, anyone can do
it, and
it is not related to religion. We try to keep the emphasis
on
experiencing the vibrations, feeling the joy, and remaining
in
thoughtless awareness. We do not discuss topics such
as "Divinity", "Relationship with religions",
"Incarnations", "Re-
incarnation", etc, and if any questions arise, try to answer
them
correctly, but diplomatically.
We must remember that the purpose is to give them
realization and
let them come to Sahaja Yoga. If we try to convince them
that their
conditionings are wrong, we may win an argument, but we may
loose a
seeker.
Some Sunni Muslim Conditionings:
- They have a conditioning against worshipping God through
idols.
For them God is formless and infinite, and no statue,
picture,
figure, even swayambhu can be worshipped. In this,
Christians start
off at a much better point, as they are used to praying in
front of
the statues of Christ and Virgin Mary, but for Muslims this
is not
the case. Human forms and figures are not allowed in Islamic
religious buildings, even as Art they do not see pictures of
people. "Photography" and "Painting" are forms of art that
are
generally looked down upon and are to be avoided, unless it
is
paintings of flower patterns and so on. Because of this
reason, for
a strongly conditioned muslim, it is a great achievement to
sit in
front of HHSM's photograph and meditate.
It may be a good idea not to show them any Puja photos where
i.e.
HHSM is wearing a crown, or dressed in Her form as one of
the
Deities, etc. to make the transition smooth. If we want them
to have
a chance to stay in Sahaja Yoga, they should not be let to
see any
Charan (Lotus Feet) photos before they are actually ready to
attend
pujas and worship.
- They do not believe in Divine Incarnations. They will not
accept
that Hz. Muhammed was Divine, nor any of the other Prophets.
They
think that prophets were messangers of God, sent by God to
help
humanity to evolve, but the Prophets themselves are supposed
to be
totally human, with the exceptional case that they used to
receive
divine messages from god as Messangers.
- They do not believe in re-encarnation. So there is no
point in
trying to tell them about karma, papas and punyas, or
previous lives.
- They have a built-in reaction against Hindus because they
think
that Hindus are people who worship ordinary cows and various
idols,
figures and statues, which is merely matter. Hinduism is not
considered to be a religion in the regard of a muslim.
Hindus are
considered to be pagans of a primitive type. Of course this
sort of
an understanding makes it difficult for them to respect HHSM
who is
wearing a bindi on Her Forehead.. Also this is why we do not
recommend to mention Deities, Gods and Goddesses at the
initial
stages. We leave this level of knowledge to much later on.
Let them
meditate with affirmations in english (or whichever is your
language, russian, etc.) regularly for a month or so, then
introduce
one mantra, and after a while more.
- The respect for woman is very much neglected in muslim
societies.
According to Sheriat Law which is the Islamic law, 1 male
witness is
equivalent to 2 female witnesses. A man can marry 4 wives,
but a
woman can marry only one. She has to cover herself
completely and
not to be seen by anyone. Etc., etc.
- They have a strong aversion to anything which seems to be
intermediary between God and man. So with many of them, the
idea of
a Guru itself is a difficulty. So the mastery principle
should be
emphasized, that with Sahaja Yoga they can become their own
masters,
and they will have the direct experience on their own
central
nervous system. " Which so far they do not have!!..
- Unlike Indian culture where people bow down in front of
elder
members of the family for respect, in Muslim culture bowing
down is
understood as worshipping, and nothing else BUT worshipping.
It is
to be done ONLY to God Almighty.
A "scientific" explanation may help them understand, by
saying that
we put our Agnya Chakra on the Earth to clean it, and also
it makes
us humble, at the same time we receive vibrations by holding
our
hands towards the photo of HHSM.
In my experience I have found that it does not help to try
to
convince muslims that "Sahaja Yoga is the real Islam, and
this is
the true religion." They have wrong ideas in their minds and
they
will most probably react to it directly. A better way is to
just
leave it and let them experience the vibrations. The more
they
experience vibrations, the more they will understand in
their heart.
And after some time, the love in their heart will win over
the
mental ideas. They will realize themselves that HHSM is
Divine, and
gradually they will get the true idea about Sahaja Yoga.
At some other instances it may prove better to tell them the
truth
directly, and let the vibrations work it out. Up to the
Sahaja
Yogis' discretion, I must say…
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Having said all this, I must say that it is not such a
hopeless case
as it sounds to be.
After all, all religious communities have some problem or
other to
begin with…
Muslims are really nice people, and once they get over their
egos I
am sure they will be among the best Sahaja Yogis.
Jai Shri Mataji
Bilge
> For the past two weeks I have been able to meditate and
reflect
> deeply on this issue as my computer went for a major
repair. Those
> able to do the same will reach a level of awareness, joy
and bliss
> as how the Paramchaitanya is working out the spread of the
Divine
> Message. The only thing i can say with absolute conviction
is that
> it is the Great News of the Divine Message to humanity,
not Sahaja
> Yoga, that will gather strength in future and spread. i
know many
> SYs will react against such a statement but please
refrain. All
> you need is to climb higher up the mountain and confirm
the same
> point of view. And when you are able to see so many
management-
> controlled SYs walking around aimlessly on the plateau far
below
> you will never look back again. You will be convinced in
heart,
> mind and soul that you have truly lived to the highest
standard
> and understanding of Shri Mataji's Original Vision,
Mission &
> Message.
>
Even Muslim beliefs and conditionings will be overcome by
the truth
of their own Qur'an as explained in detail at
www.al-qiyamah.org.
Just tell them about the Divine Message (The Great News of
Al-
Qiyamah) and give them self-realization (The Baptism of
Allah). All
they need to do is meditate on His Ruh within as God is
formless and
infinite, and no statue, picture, figure, even swayambhu
need to be
worshipped. (i now only meditate on His Ruh within and not
on any
external image whatsoever.)
But even Muslim SYs like Bilge Celebi are told by management
SYs to
hide the truth and be dishonest:
"At the programs for newly arrived muslims, when we
introduce Sahaja
Yoga we usually say that this is a meditation, anyone can do
it, and
it is not related to religion."
As far as God Almighty is concerned Bilge Celebi was a
better Muslim
before he joined Sahaja Yoga. There can be no greater sin
than to
induce/force Muslim SYs to hide the truth of the Divine
Message, one
that their Quran explicitly declares is for the benefit and
salvation of all humanity. So be careful how you go about
and
conduct your duty towards others. It is far better you just
tell
others about the Divine Message and give them
self-realization. Do
not lie and be dishonest because all believers deserve the
right to
know about the Great News of the Resurrection.
Jai Shri Mataji,
jagbir
From: "jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@yahoo.com>
Date:
Wed Aug 17, 2005 9:38 am
Subject: Re: Just
tell others about the Divine Message and give them
self-realization
--- In
adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com,
"jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@y...> wrote:
>
> But even Muslim SYs like Bilge Celebi are told by
management SYs
> to hide the truth and be dishonest:
>
> "At the programs for newly arrived muslims, when we
introduce
> Sahaja Yoga we usually say that this is a meditation,
anyone can
> do it, and it is not related to religion."
>
> As far as God Almighty is concerned Bilge Celebi was a
better
> Muslim before he joined Sahaja Yoga. There can be no
greater sin
> than to induce/force Muslim SYs to hide the truth of the
Divine
> Message, one that their Quran explicitly declares is for
the
> benefit and salvation of all humanity. So be careful how
you go
> about and conduct your duty towards others. It is far
better you
> just tell others about the Divine Message and give them
self-
> realization. Do not lie and be dishonest because all
believers
> deserve the right to know about the Great News of the
Resurrection.
>
> Jai Shri Mataji,
>
HYPOCRISY (NIFAQ):
The vice of Hypocrisy is the most repugnant vice. Almighty
Allah
hates and despises people who acquire this vice. Allah says
in the
Qur'an: "The Hypocrites will be in the lowest depth of Hell
Fire and
no help shall come to them." (Q 3: 145). The word Hypocrisy
(Nifaq)
is mentioned in the Qur'an 31 times. The Prophet (peace be
upon him)
said; (The signs of a Hypocrite (Muslim) are three: when he
speaks
he lies, when he promises he breaks his promise and when he
is
entrusted he betrays the trust). The Prophet (peace be upon
him),
also, said: (You will find the worst kind of people is the
double-
faced person (hypocrite); who comes to one group of people
with one
face and to another group with a different face).
www.idrismosque.com/majorsins.html
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