Just tell others about the Divine Message and give them self-realization

From: "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon Aug 15, 2005  1:35 pm
Subject: Just tell others about the Divine Message and give them self-realization


--- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com, "jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@y...> wrote:
>
> The only way you can be free to be your own master is to simplify
> and protect the heart and soul of Shri Mataji's teachings i.e.,
> spreading the Divine Message to humanity. Just tell others about
> the Divine Message and give them self-realization to continue on
> their own. All they need to do is to meditate twice a day and be
> daily conscious that the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking
> place. There should be no need to do any external rituals like
> havan, shoe beat, string burning, etc. because the Mother
> Kundalini and Cool Breeze can by far take care of all problems.
> Compared to the later, all forms of cures and treatments pale in
> significance and effectiveness. Moreover these rituals will be
> rejected by most non-Hindus as they are not found in the Holy
> Scriptures. ...
>


From: "Bilge Celebi" <bilge108@...>
Date: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:30 am
Subject: Muslim beliefs and conditionings


Dear Sahajis,

Being a Turkish Sunni Muslim myself, and living in United Arab
Emirates, I will try to write about how to go about things with
Muslims.

I would like to remind you that what I will say here is based only
on my experience and impressions, there certainly may be exceptions,
and maybe other better ways to approach the case.

At the programs for newly arrived muslims, when we introduce Sahaja
Yoga we usually say that this is a meditation, anyone can do it, and
it is not related to religion. We try to keep the emphasis on
experiencing the vibrations, feeling the joy, and remaining in
thoughtless awareness. We do not discuss topics such
as "Divinity", "Relationship with religions", "Incarnations", "Re-
incarnation", etc, and if any questions arise, try to answer them
correctly, but diplomatically.

We must remember that the purpose is to give them realization and
let them come to Sahaja Yoga. If we try to convince them that their
conditionings are wrong, we may win an argument, but we may loose a
seeker.

Some Sunni Muslim Conditionings:


- They have a conditioning against worshipping God through idols.
For them God is formless and infinite, and no statue, picture,
figure, even swayambhu can be worshipped. In this, Christians start
off at a much better point, as they are used to praying in front of
the statues of Christ and Virgin Mary, but for Muslims this is not
the case. Human forms and figures are not allowed in Islamic
religious buildings, even as Art they do not see pictures of
people. "Photography" and "Painting" are forms of art that are
generally looked down upon and are to be avoided, unless it is
paintings of flower patterns and so on. Because of this reason, for
a strongly conditioned muslim, it is a great achievement to sit in
front of HHSM's photograph and meditate.

It may be a good idea not to show them any Puja photos where i.e.
HHSM is wearing a crown, or dressed in Her form as one of the
Deities, etc. to make the transition smooth. If we want them to have
a chance to stay in Sahaja Yoga, they should not be let to see any
Charan (Lotus Feet) photos before they are actually ready to attend
pujas and worship.

- They do not believe in Divine Incarnations. They will not accept
that Hz. Muhammed was Divine, nor any of the other Prophets. They
think that prophets were messangers of God, sent by God to help
humanity to evolve, but the Prophets themselves are supposed to be
totally human, with the exceptional case that they used to receive
divine messages from god as Messangers.

- They do not believe in re-encarnation. So there is no point in
trying to tell them about karma, papas and punyas, or previous lives.

- They have a built-in reaction against Hindus because they think
that Hindus are people who worship ordinary cows and various idols,
figures and statues, which is merely matter. Hinduism is not
considered to be a religion in the regard of a muslim. Hindus are
considered to be pagans of a primitive type. Of course this sort of
an understanding makes it difficult for them to respect HHSM who is
wearing a bindi on Her Forehead.. Also this is why we do not
recommend to mention Deities, Gods and Goddesses at the initial
stages. We leave this level of knowledge to much later on. Let them
meditate with affirmations in english (or whichever is your
language, russian, etc.) regularly for a month or so, then introduce
one mantra, and after a while more.

- The respect for woman is very much neglected in muslim societies.
According to Sheriat Law which is the Islamic law, 1 male witness is
equivalent to 2 female witnesses. A man can marry 4 wives, but a
woman can marry only one. She has to cover herself completely and
not to be seen by anyone. Etc., etc.

- They have a strong aversion to anything which seems to be
intermediary between God and man. So with many of them, the idea of
a Guru itself is a difficulty. So the mastery principle should be
emphasized, that with Sahaja Yoga they can become their own masters,
and they will have the direct experience on their own central
nervous system. " Which so far they do not have!!..

- Unlike Indian culture where people bow down in front of elder
members of the family for respect, in Muslim culture bowing down is
understood as worshipping, and nothing else BUT worshipping. It is
to be done ONLY to God Almighty.

A "scientific" explanation may help them understand, by saying that
we put our Agnya Chakra on the Earth to clean it, and also it makes
us humble, at the same time we receive vibrations by holding our
hands towards the photo of HHSM.

In my experience I have found that it does not help to try to
convince muslims that "Sahaja Yoga is the real Islam, and this is
the true religion." They have wrong ideas in their minds and they
will most probably react to it directly. A better way is to just
leave it and let them experience the vibrations. The more they
experience vibrations, the more they will understand in their heart.
And after some time, the love in their heart will win over the
mental ideas. They will realize themselves that HHSM is Divine, and
gradually they will get the true idea about Sahaja Yoga.

At some other instances it may prove better to tell them the truth
directly, and let the vibrations work it out. Up to the Sahaja
Yogis' discretion, I must say…

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Having said all this, I must say that it is not such a hopeless case
as it sounds to be.

After all, all religious communities have some problem or other to
begin with…

Muslims are really nice people, and once they get over their egos I
am sure they will be among the best Sahaja Yogis.

Jai Shri Mataji

Bilge



> For the past two weeks I have been able to meditate and reflect
> deeply on this issue as my computer went for a major repair. Those
> able to do the same will reach a level of awareness, joy and bliss
> as how the Paramchaitanya is working out the spread of the Divine
> Message. The only thing i can say with absolute conviction is that
> it is the Great News of the Divine Message to humanity, not Sahaja
> Yoga, that will gather strength in future and spread. i know many
> SYs will react against such a statement but please refrain. All
> you need is to climb higher up the mountain and confirm the same
> point of view. And when you are able to see so many management-
> controlled SYs walking around aimlessly on the plateau far below
> you will never look back again. You will be convinced in heart,
> mind and soul that you have truly lived to the highest standard
> and understanding of Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission &
> Message.
>

Even Muslim beliefs and conditionings will be overcome by the truth
of their own Qur'an as explained in detail at www.al-qiyamah.org.
Just tell them about the Divine Message (The Great News of Al-
Qiyamah) and give them self-realization (The Baptism of Allah). All
they need to do is meditate on His Ruh within as God is formless and
infinite, and no statue, picture, figure, even swayambhu need to be
worshipped. (i now only meditate on His Ruh within and not on any
external image whatsoever.)

But even Muslim SYs like Bilge Celebi are told by management SYs to
hide the truth and be dishonest:

"At the programs for newly arrived muslims, when we introduce Sahaja
Yoga we usually say that this is a meditation, anyone can do it, and
it is not related to religion."

As far as God Almighty is concerned Bilge Celebi was a better Muslim
before he joined Sahaja Yoga. There can be no greater sin than to
induce/force Muslim SYs to hide the truth of the Divine Message, one
that their Quran explicitly declares is for the benefit and
salvation of all humanity. So be careful how you go about and
conduct your duty towards others. It is far better you just tell
others about the Divine Message and give them self-realization. Do
not lie and be dishonest because all believers deserve the right to
know about the Great News of the Resurrection.

Jai Shri Mataji,


jagbir


From: "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Aug 17, 2005  9:38 am
Subject: Re: Just tell others about the Divine Message and give them self-realization


--- In
adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com
, "jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@y...> wrote:
>
> But even Muslim SYs like Bilge Celebi are told by management SYs
> to hide the truth and be dishonest:
>
> "At the programs for newly arrived muslims, when we introduce
> Sahaja Yoga we usually say that this is a meditation, anyone can
> do it, and it is not related to religion."
>
> As far as God Almighty is concerned Bilge Celebi was a better
> Muslim before he joined Sahaja Yoga. There can be no greater sin
> than to induce/force Muslim SYs to hide the truth of the Divine
> Message, one that their Quran explicitly declares is for the
> benefit and salvation of all humanity. So be careful how you go
> about and conduct your duty towards others. It is far better you
> just tell others about the Divine Message and give them self-
> realization. Do not lie and be dishonest because all believers
> deserve the right to know about the Great News of the Resurrection.
>
> Jai Shri Mataji,
>


HYPOCRISY (NIFAQ):

The vice of Hypocrisy is the most repugnant vice. Almighty Allah
hates and despises people who acquire this vice. Allah says in the
Qur'an: "The Hypocrites will be in the lowest depth of Hell Fire and
no help shall come to them." (Q 3: 145). The word Hypocrisy (Nifaq)
is mentioned in the Qur'an 31 times. The Prophet (peace be upon him)
said; (The signs of a Hypocrite (Muslim) are three: when he speaks
he lies, when he promises he breaks his promise and when he is
entrusted he betrays the trust). The Prophet (peace be upon him),
also, said: (You will find the worst kind of people is the double-
faced person (hypocrite); who comes to one group of people with one
face and to another group with a different face).

www.idrismosque.com/majorsins.html



 

 

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