Shri Mataji: "Tell All The Nations"
From: "v_koa"
Date: Thu Feb 2, 2006 3:22 am
Subject: TELL ALL THE NATIONS
TO all here,
This is an email that i have written and sent to certain yogis in the collective
i am. part of whom have become very close. Its almost a group within a collective
of very like-minded people who clearly see the flaws of how the collective is run
and want to change it. The replies I got for them in regards to this was great
and they agreed; so now the work starts guess.
I wanted to share this all with you maybe partly because of my ego, but also to
show that there are people younger ( 24-29) that really want to do SY the way it
was meant to be taught and are not all brainwashed so to speak.
Enjoy
Kyyan
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DEAR ALL,
(the yogi i originally named will remain absent to protect his privacy) is
right, and I have been thinking this and discussing this with many yogis online
for many months.
What it comes down to is exactly what (name withheld) yogi said: - telling the
truth. Holding a meeting once a week to give realization is good, but how much
is truly being done to get mothers message out there like she has asked
repeatedly, which is the message that it is the last judgement and resurrection
time as prophesied in the bible and other spiritual texts, and that she is the
Adi Shakti, (the incarnation of the Holy spirit), the breath of God, that has
been promised by Jesus to come in the time before the end to comfort people, and
to teach all he could not teach about the kingdom of God. In laymen's terms, it
is the time for us to Ascend as a whole and individually and that The Adi Shakti
(Holy Spirit)is here on earth to connect us to ourselves and to God, allowing us
time to purify ourselves and introduce others to Her and to them selves so they
have the same chance and to be saved and to enjoy the spirit and all the
blessing that go along with it.
I feel that the Ashram is suffering as well, in part to what (name withheld) has
said, but I feel also because we are not openly declaring the truth of what SY
is, basically not doing as mother has asked. Do we really think that SY is going
to spread like wildfire if we cloak it to initial visitors as a yoga that raises
the kundalini and works on the chakras? I mean in a huge sea of similar yogas
and meditation classes that are out there as well that claim to raise the
kundalini and do this and that with the Chakras, and even another "group" that
claims their leader is the incarnation of the Adi Shakti (yes there is another
meditation group claiming an obvious fake who has no power to be the Adi
Shakti), do we really think that marketing this as a "special yoga" or stress
relief and health benefit yoga is going to get followers when there are already
loads of the same out there that charge lots of money (people feel secure and
ensured of the benefit if they have to pay for some reason) and put so much into
flashy advertising, while we twinkle like a Christmas light on a sunny day?
I know that people may be fearful that many won't accept the fact that
"judgement day" as it were, is actually a period of time (not a day) in which we
are currently living and may scoff, ridicule or run away from SY. Even more to
that point, many are probably scared that if we openly tell others, especially
beginners, that SY is not just a meditation, but is the only way to take part in
the Last Judgement and it is our birth right, as well as the fact that Mother is
the Holy Spirit( ***not just an incarnation who remains nameless at first, or a
guru, or highly evolved soul as it is being said at most meetings) that these
people may flee and never return or not come back because its too religious or
whatever. There is no doubt this may happen, but by far I can't see it as being
a trend. IF anything, if more people know the depth and truth of SY and who
mother is right up front, whether they believe or not, they would be more
inclined to stay on or keep it locked in there heads like " what if what they
are saying is true?" instead of running away and never returning. I mean right
now how many really return or practice, especially those who have damaged their
subtle system so much that they don't feel anything for quite some time? How
many of those people will come back if they feel nothing, knowing that its just
another meditation to bring peace to the mind, like the thousands out there
claiming the same thing as we are currently explaining SY to people?
They would and will not return because they have gotten nothing out of it. If
people knew the truth, and that this was not just a meditation but the
connection to the Holy spirit and "heaven" and that the one who is in the
picture is actually the Holy Spirit, they would be more inclined to stay despite
feeling little or nothing. Not only that, those that run may eventually come
back because of this fact and besides, how well has our "bait people with a
special yoga and tell the whole truth later" idea worked for SY and our
collective so far. By the looks of things, not very good, or at least as well as
it could be working.
The way I see it, deceiving people or only telling part of the truth or a "half
truth" is still lying, and how long are we going to lie or deceive in order to
tell the truth? The end does not justify the means, especially when Mother has
asked us to declare the time of Judgement and resurrection is now and that she
is the Adi Shakti. The quote to which I am referring are below; think about
them:
**I am the Adi Shakti. I am the One who has come on this Earth for the first
time in this form to do this tremendous task . The more you understand this the
better it would be. You will change tremendously.
I knew I'll have to say that openly one day and we have said it. But now it is
you people who have to prove it that I am that!"
Shri Adi-Shakti Devi
Sydney, Australia — March 21, 1983**
**"You have to take a stand in your family, in your surroundings, with your
friends, and you have to tell them, "You better all get realized." The reason
for that is that the Christ who crucified Himself is going to come back with his
Eleven Forces of Destruction. And when He starts He is not going to ask you to
take any Realization. No one is going to be bothered whether you are going to
hell. He will just sort out. But those who have got Realization will enter into
the Kingdom of God. You have to enter into the Kingdom of God here (pointing to
the Sahastrara in the photo)), as I say, in the Seventh Chakra."
Shri Adi Shakti Devi
The New Age Has Started,
Houston, USA — Oct. 6, 1981**
**Words of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi:
"Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all over, the great message -
that the time of Resurrection is Here. Now, at this time, and that you all are
capable of doing it. You are the ones who are capable of manifesting God's joy
on this earth. You are the flutes which are going to play the Melody of God. I
am doing all this to perfect you to be the 'most' beautiful instruments of God.
Like the ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found out to be
sea-worthy to sail out, when you know everything about the ship, everything
about the sea, with complete freedom and wisdom, you have to sail now. Not
afraid of any storms or any gales or any typhoons because now all you 'know'.
Your job is to cross through."
You become the Ocean, you become the Moon, you become the Sun, you become the
Earth, you become the Ether, the firmament - and you become, the Spirit. You
work for all of them. All the stars and universes you become, and take up their
work."
(Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 28 September 1996)**
She has said all of this back in 1996 and how many people out there worldwide in
SY have openly done this, and how many other people know about it outside of SY?
I agree with (name withheld) that other people are not afraid to tell of their
faiths and explain to people why their faith is the way. Why are we so fearful
of ridicule? People ridiculed Jesus but he stood firm on the truth, knowing that
what he was saying was absolute; in the same way all fears should be given up
because what we are doing and what has been asked of us is absolute asked of us
by the absolute.
The speeches we watch and the knowledge given is not only for us to enjoy and
benefit from, but for everyone to know of and benefit from. Why can we openly
declare and worship her as the Adi Shakti in private but then keep quite about
the greatest opportunity for mankind and what many are watching the skies for
signs and searching for in public, especially since those are the very people
who are looking for God and who we have been chosen to help save. How can we
save people using dishonesty or hidden agendas, when the mode of saving people
is the truth? If we are scared, like (name withheld) said, just let Mother Do it
all. We have to be up-front with the truth, however powerful and fearful it may
be for some, including ourselves, and surrender the rest to mother, including
the words. She will help us, guide us and take care of everything as She wills
it, not how we think it should be taken care of . IF people run, they run, if
they stay they stay; at least they are running or staying based on knowing the
truth, and whatever people choose and what they decided to do and go through is
all up to Mother. We are the instruments (however badly blocked they are heheh-
in my case) and all we have to do is tell the truth and allow Mother to play the
music that will draw and sooth the listeners, comforting them and introducing
them to Her. We do nothing anyways, so why are we worried about doing nothing;
we simply do nothing and let Mother take care of everything.
My point is we need to tell who Shri Mataji is up front and that this is the
last resurrection and judgement as prophesied in the bible etc, as well as
explaining the subtle system and how it works etc. as is being already done, all
the time, in public and at meetings or one on one situations, which we should
all strive to put ourselves in more (grass roots! as I was talking about in the
other letter) and let mother work out the rest. At least we will be doing what
she asked us instead of dodging it, and we will know no matter what happens, we
are standing on the truth and doing as she asked us, so we will be looked after.
To me, I would rather be standing before "MOTHER" at the end of this life
knowing I helped Her do what She came her for and She asked of me, in total
truth and with all my effort, than be asked by Her "why did you waste so much
time, enjoying the pure knowledge for yourself only, instead of surrendering
fear to me and doing as I asked?"
That's all I have to say on that. Either way, whatever is decided to be done
officially is fine. I will without a doubt, 100% of the time (and hopefully you
all will be with me in this despite what other older, more established yogis may
think) telling people up front the truth about SY and let them decide what they
will do about it, and let Mother work it all out.
With love as always; take care
Kyyan
--- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com, "semirafields"
>
> Dear Kyyan,
>
> Thanks for sharing your email.
>
> What you have written below brings to my mind a vision I had in
> meditation a while ago;
>
> I saw a brown horse, tied up and forgotten about and neglected.
> The horse was dejected and mournful, and was waiting. While I
> watched, the horse began to change into white energy. The change
> began at the throat and spread from here over the face and
> backwards; the horse was transforming into what looked like a
> powerful and beautiful white light/energy, which could no longer
> be tied up or restrained by anything.
>
> Love and best wishes, Semira
>
And i have also something to add to your wonderful dream Semira,
perhaps that will answer Kyyan's desire for change and transparency.
i will quote what was posted just a week ago:
Every Thursday morning i go through the excellent and comprehensive
WebTrends report that is sent once a week. There is so much
information available that will take hours to go through if you are
so inclined to examine all the details.
Since the second half of last year the results have always been
encouraging, a good omen for the future of the Divine Message.
Things are really moving in the right direction and the latest
indicators again point to that. i still do not want to read too much
as my measure of success is rather conservative and reflects the
immense effort and success of the SY management in suppressing the
truth about Shri Mataji and Her Divine Message. However, given all
the negativity, we are consistently exposing more of humanity
despite all opposition, self-doubt, cowardice, dishonesty and
hypocrisy.
The latest WebTrend report for www.adishakti.org shows that the
5,000 visitors per day mark may soon be breached. Remember, we had
around 2,000 plus average last October and that has doubled now. For
this week ending 1-25-2006 they are:
Thursday - 4,257
Friday - 4,366
Saturday - 3,876
Sunday - 4,190
Monday - 4,896
Tuesday - 4,333
Wednesday - 4,255
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/adishakti_sahaja_yoga/message/5591
The latest WebTrend figures for daily visitors are:
Thursday Jan. 26 - 4,460
Friday Jan. 27 - 4,139
Saturday Jan. 28 - 4,095
Sunday Jan. 29 - 4,311
Monday Jan. 30 - 5,055
Tuesday Jan. 31 - 5,529
Wednesday Feb. 1 - 5,486
Kyyan, everything is working well according to Semira's dream and
WebTrend is evidence of this optimism. The Divine Message is
definitely spreading and can no longer be tied up or restrained by
anything. All the negative forces working against it within the
Sahaja Yoga organization are being overcome - leaders, WCASY and
murmuring souls. Over time increasing number of SYs will realize all
your concerns and come to their senses. It is the younger generation
who will work for honesty and transparency because the senior SYs
are not going to change the subtle system mentality.
The Divine Message, tied up and forgotten about and neglected by
management SYs is now transforming into what looks like a powerful
and beautiful white light/energy, which can no longer be tied up or
restrained by anything. All we need are fearless and dedicated souls
willing to perform their duty to the Adi Shakti. Those who want to
help can do so by sending the www.adishakti.org links to as many
seekers as possible. And do not ever listen to what murmuring
souls/leaders have to say about the websites. They are the ones who
have never obeyed Shri Mataji's instructions to "TELL ALL THE
NATIONS!" Not only that but they also have prevented others from
carrying out this sacred duty of every Sahaja Yogi. This negativity
itself is an evil force working against the Divine Plan for
humanity. Do not unwittingly join forces and work against Shri
Mataji. Just meditate and contemplate on Shri Mahamaya's Silence,
and you will understand why it is necessary. It is time for us
to "TELL ALL THE NATIONS!" ......... while She is still on Earth. We
must fulfill Her vision and victory despite the present odds. The
tide is indeed just turning and 5,000 + daily visitors is the proof
we needed. It is a significant milestone and the future will only
get better.
Jai Shri Mataji,
jagbir
From: "jagbir singh"
Date: Fri Feb 3, 2006 7:46 am
Subject: Re: TELL ALL THE NATIONS
>
> --- In adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com, "semirafields"
>
> >
> > Dear Kyyan,
> >
> > Thanks for sharing your email.
> .
> > What you have written below brings to my mind a vision I had in
> > meditation a while ago;
> >
> > I saw a brown horse, tied up and forgotten about and neglected.
> > The horse was dejected and mournful, and was waiting. While I
> > watched, the horse began to change into white energy. The change
> > began at the throat and spread from here over the face and
> > backwards; the horse was transforming into what looked like a
> > powerful and beautiful white light/energy, which could no longer
> > be tied up or restrained by anything.
> >
> > Love and best wishes, Semira
> >
>
Dear Semira,
i have realized your dream has a deeper meaning. "The change
began at the throat and spread from here over" can only mean the
Vishuddhi Chakra. i know Shri Mataji has said that only when America
awakens will the rest of the world follow and Her Message will
spread. Years ago (October 10, 1993) She mentioned that at least
16,000 SYs are required in North America. "It is very important, you
all should understand your own responsibility. So between South and
North America we have to at least have 16,000 Sahaja Yogis."
However, till date they are far from achieving that figure. The
reason is that even though "collectivity has to be the maximum in
America, but it is not. There are many problems of collectivity
there, but still they realize they have to be collective. There are
so few who are Sahaja Yogis". That was said by Shri Mataji in
Melbourne on April 10, 1991.
Today, nearly 15 years later it is just as bad, maybe worse. The
opposition and negativity to the websites/forums fulfilling Shri
Mataji's command to "TELL ALL THE NATIONS" found fertile grounds in
the Land of Vishuddhi. All the ex-world leader Yogi Mahajan had to
do was whisper his lies into the ears of influential/senior SYs and
the Inquisytion began. Today North American SYs twiddle their thumbs
and wonder why things have never worked out despite years of hard
work, effort and sacrifice. The subtle system agenda just does not
work anymore. There are hardly any public programs in North America
nowadays and the exhaustion has set in.
But we have given proof that seekers are looking for the Divine
Message, the very message that Shri Mataji commanded SYs to "TELL
ALL THE NATIONS". We are furnishing evidence that more and more
people are reading about it and the 5,000 visitors per day mark has
been attained, and that number will only grow. WCASY and management
SYs now have no reason whatsoever not to follow Shri Mataji's
instructions.
So what will happen to those who do not want to TELL ALL THE
NATIONS? How will this negativity be overcome? What are the options
left to those conscientious and dharmic SYs who want to be honest
and transparent about their faith? Can we overcome this evil force
that want Her Divine Message be suppressed? What can we do about the
enemies who do not want you to TELL ALL THE NATIONS?
"Vishuddhi chakra is the centre of the Virata. The message of Shri
Krishna was to surrender. When Shri Krishna was talking about
surrender He was saying, "surrender your enemies to me so that I
will get rid of them". "
That is all we need to do according to Shri Mataji. Everything is
working according to Her Play and the dramas played out lately are
most conducive to us being able to TELL ALL THE NATIONS about Her
Divine Message to humanity. Let Shri Krishna destroy all enemies of
the Divine Message. He has given us the ability and power of the
Vishuddhi Chakra to communicate the Truth to humanity - The Internet!
The change and increasing desire to TELL ALL THE NATIONS has now
began at the throat (Vishuddhi Chakra/Americas) and will spread from
here (America, Land of the Vishuddhi) over the face and backwards
(all over the world). That is what the dream symbolizes Semira.
Jai Shri Mataji,
jagbir
"Today we are going to celebrate the puja of Virata and Viratangana.
North America and South America, as you know is the Shri Krishna's
center of Vishuddhi. And it is very important to know also that all
the communications, all the relationships with the whole creation
has to be established through this center of Vishuddhi. Vishuddhi,
as you know is the most important center in your ascent, in a way.
Because Sahaja Yoga is not only meant for your ascent but for the
ascent of the whole world, and only through Vishuddhi you can
achieve it. Even if you get your self realization and you get all
the powers, unless and until you use your Vishuddhi, it won't work
out. Look at my Vishuddhi also, talking, talking everywhere,
keeping communications, Vishuddhi goes out. Also, this
Vishuddhi chakra being so important it is under attack. Attack of
the negative force. ...
So you have to look after the law and order of the whole world. You
have to look after people who are suffering in this world. You have
to look after all the suppressions and the wars and all the civil
wars everywhere, is all your headache, because you are sitting in
the land of Virat. So He's the Father, He's what you call Johoba.
He's Akhbar. So on the brain level when Kundaline reaches and
enlightens your brain then this science as you know becomes logical,
but you know meta science because the brain which was only knowing
science now knows the source of science. The whole thing it can see
clearly. Like you climb up a hill or a mountain, the higher you go
you can see the whole vision of a place. In the same way whatever
is created out of your brain, anything, you start getting the whole
vision of it what they have created."
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
10.10.93 Los Angeles, USA
"Shri Krishna has become the Virata, the Great Primordial Being, so
this is the 11th power of destruction. He has the power called
Samhara Shakti by which he kills people. So, before killing them
and finishing them off, in the compassion of your Mother, we have to
first try to transform them. If they cannot be transformed then
it's alright, then let Ekadasha take over. So these 11 very great
destructive powers will be used by the Kalki, the One who is going
to manifest on a white horse. Before that, today is a very great
day that we are going to use these powers for transformation."
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
21.May.84
"May God bless you all, in your work which you are trying to do for
the good of Americans. It is a responsibility to save America. You
know it is the Vishuddhi chakra and all the responsibility of Sahaja
Yoga rests on Vishuddhi chakra. So how important it is that this
transformation is to take place. Unless and until the
transformation comes in, you will see it will not work out. You
cannot talk to people, you cannot communicate with them. So you
must pray that transformation process must start, must trigger, and
must gallop, and must go on spreading like wildfire."
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
"But one thing they must have discrimination. And the power of
discrimination or we can say, the chakra of Hamsa is in Canada. If
they stop exploiting Canadians, and if Canadians know that this
discrimination power that they have got, if they are awakened to
that, I am sure the combination of these two countries will work out
the collectivity much better and they can do a lot of emancipation
of human beings."
"It's a very, very important country for us because it is Vishuddhi
and Vishuddhi is controlling part of the whole body of our work. We
will see that when we will see Vishnu's Sahasranam (thousand names)
we will see how many qualities Vishnu has and how many things He has
to work out in this world and this is the thing that they have to
work out. America is the instrument of Shri Vishnu so it has to be
awakened. Shri Vishnu sleeps a lot, and He is sleeping in America.
So we have to awaken Him and once we awaken Him, I am sure He will
work out His instrument and something new will come out."
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
"So you are the fruits. That Viratangana Shakti, you are the fruits. We are going to worship that Virata
Shakti which has given fruits. Absolutely the humility inside is
really going to give you the complete value of Sahaja
Yoga fruits. Achieve the completion of this Virata Shakti which
ultimately becomes a 'Madhurya Shakti'. Vishuddhi chakra is the
centre of the Virata. The message of Shri Krishna was to surrender.
When Shri Krishna was talking about surrender He was saying,
"surrender your enemies to me so that I will get rid of them". "
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
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