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Telling the truth: "The only way is to start talking,
announcing, telling and ..."
From: "jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@yahoo.com>
Date:
Sat Jul 9, 2005 10:07 am
Subject: Telling the
truth: "The only way is to start talking, announcing,
telling and "
--- In
adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com,
Călin Martin
<calinez@y...> wrote:
> Dear Jagbir,
>
> thank you for your answer. I read today the new post of
you on the
> forum. I think i might have some answer about why some
sahaja yogis
> are afraid of telling the truth in public. At least some
guess of
> mine. In the christian world, people are told that only
God knows
> about the Last Judgement. And up to this day they should
be good
> catholics, ortodox ,protestants..whatever. People really
see the
> Last Judgement as being a happening when Christ will judge
like an
> ordinary judge in court house. I think that few people in
the
> world came alone to the ideea that we are judging
ourselves. And
> when you tell them that we are leaving the times described
in the
> scriptures and that the Comforter sent by Jesus is among
us, they
> will wheter laugh on you or tell you (like some Sahaja
Yogis ) not
> to spread this anymore. I think people really expect that
Jesus
> they know from the pictures in the churches will come with
the
> same face they are used to.
>
> So, in some sense i could understand the fear some sy's
feel when
> having to onestly say the truth. But in the same time i
also think
> there is no other way. What we in privat think, should be
openly
> said to the public.
>
> Best regards
> Calin
>
Dear Calin,
i appreciate this answer and thank you.
The problem with Christianity is the really short period
that Christ
could preach. Unlike other incarnations, He was only able to
enlighten the ignorant masses for 3 1/2 years. Even worse is
the
fact that if one calculates the number of verses said by Him
they
amount to an hour or so of actual speech. Compare them to
the
apostles and one wonders why they were given far more time
and
prominence. And why are they speaking on behalf of Jesus?
What
happened to the actual words spoken by Him?
i will give you a hypothetical explanation to the inherent
dangers
of third-party mouthpieces, editing and organizing truth.
Say SYs
(Jesus' disciples) had to tell future generations from
memory what
Shri Mataji taught since 1972-2000. Then came a group of
management
SYs (Church) who wanted to organize the truth and
consolidate power.
They only give permission and prominence to disciples who
want to
talk about self-realization, subtle system, catches and
treatments.
Those who dare talk about the Divine Message (Gnostics) are
condemned as heretics and excommunicated by these murmuring
souls.
Over the years and decades only the empty shell of Sahaja
Yoga
remains and it becomes increasingly difficult for the
followers
(Christians) to find spiritual fulfillment and faith in God.
All
those theories and thesis of the management SYs (Church) on
a
variety of topics fail to attract the faithful, a decline
that none
has any idea to reverse despite a score or two of elite
brains
storming in collective unison. For example, who really is
interested
in learning how slicing a lemon into half and placing it on
the top
of the head helps your kundalini to rise? It causes more
confusion,
ridicule and disbelief if analyzed. The same happened to
Last
Judgment because the elite brains of Christianity stormed in
collective unison for two millennia. When you invent
Purgatory
(sliced lemons) then the Last Judgemnt (Power of Shakti)
becomes
distorted and subject to ridicule.
If you understand all the above hypothetical explanation
then you
will comprehend the present difficulty in clearing centuries
of
ignorance and false teachings by management Christians. Who
knows
how much of Jesus' teachings has been edited out of the
Bible by the
powerful Church? This organization had already consolidated
power
when the New Testament was first published, centuries after
the
Savior left. If it can happen today right under our noses
what makes
us think it did not happen 2000 years ago?
So Jesus told them that He will send the Comforter who will
explain
all that He was unable. Jesus knew that it will take far
more than a
few years to enlighten humanity about spirituality,
especially the
Kingdom of God (Sahasrara). That is exactly what Shri Mataji
has
done and we SYs are able to understand and accept all
religions,
their prophets and holy books. All religious or spiritual
organizations come a distant second as far as enlightenment
is
concerned. Among other things, SYs are the only humans who
can feel
the Cool Breeze, a sign that we are taking part in the Last
Judgment
and Resurrection. This can only be understood and accepted
by those
who have cross-examined the teachings of the Comforter
against that
of the Bible, and confirming they are true by providing
detailed
analysis backed by Christian authors.
Those SYs who have read www.adishakti.org will realize
exactly that
and be confident enough to proclaim the Last Judgment, and a
lot
more. Before the advent of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi not a
single
soul understood how the Last Judgment and Resurrection is
going to
take place. Only after the Comforter clarified over the span
of
three decades about the single invisible thread that holds
all
religions together and the common destination for all the
believers
have we SYs been able to surrender to the Divine Message.
But since the concept of Sahaja Yoga is officially explained
in
terms of self-realization, subtle system, catches and
treatments SYs
are going to make a laughing stock of themselves if they
ever talk
about the Divine Message or Comforter. It is indeed true
that
management SYs want us to continue squeaking like mice in
public
and "not to spread this (Message of the Last Judgment)
anymore." But
please don't blame Shri Mataji for this lack of faith and
conviction. There is nothing She can do to stop the
management SYs
from organizing the truth and editing out the Divine Message
to
humanity.
But did She ever tell us not to "Declare to all the nations
now that
I am the Holy Ghost and I have come for this Special Time,
that is,
the Resurrection Time"? Did Shri Mataji ever deny that "Now
the Time
has come to start talking, announcing, telling about it to
everyone.
Otherwise the world would say that we never knew about it"?
Sure, people are going to laugh at lemons and chillies. The
only
thing that silences them is the truth laid out in great
detail and
transparency. SYs must protect the Divine Message and
prevent it
being edited out of Sahaja Yoga. The only way is to start
talking,
announcing, telling about it to everyone.
Jai Shri Mataji,
jagbir
From: "jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@yahoo.com>
Date:
Sat Jul 9, 2005 7:53 pm
Subject: Re: Telling
the truth: "The only way is to start talking, announcing,
telling and "
--- In
adishakti_sahaja_yoga@yahoogroups.com,
"jagbir singh"
<adishakti_org@y...> wrote:
>
> The problem with Christianity is the really short period
that
> Christ could preach. Unlike other incarnations, He was
only able
> to enlighten the ignorant masses for 3 1/2 years. Even
worse is
> the fact that if one calculates the number of verses said
by Him
> they amount to an hour or so of actual speech. Compare
them to the
> apostles and one wonders why they were given far more time
and
> prominence. And why are they speaking on behalf of Jesus?
What
> happened to the actual words spoken by Him?
>
It was on a December day in the year of 1945, near the town
of Nag
Hammadi in Upper Egypt, that the course of Gnostic studies
was
radically renewed and forever changed. An Arab peasant,
digging
around a boulder in search of fertilizer for his fields,
happened
upon an old, rather large red earthenware jar. Hoping to
have found
buried treasure, and with due hesitation and apprehension
about the
jinn, the genie or spirit who might attend such an hoard, he
smashed
the jar open with his pick. Inside he discovered no treasure
and no
genie, but books: more than a dozen old papyrus books, bound
in
golden brown leather.6 Little did he realize that he had
found an
extraordinary collection of ancient texts, manuscripts
hidden up a
millennium and a half before (probably deposited in the jar
around
the year 390 by monks from the nearby monastery of St.
Pachomius) to
escape destruction under order of the emerging orthodox
Church in
its violent expunging of all heterodoxy and heresy.
How the Nag Hammadi manuscripts eventually passed into
scholarly
hands is a fascinating even if too lengthy story to here
relate. But
today, now over fifty years since being unearthed and more
than two
decades after final translation and publication in English
as The
Nag Hammadi Library, their importance has become
astoundingly clear:
These thirteen beautiful papyrus codices containing
fifty-two sacred
texts are the long lost "Gnostic Gospels", a last extant
testament
of what orthodox Christianity perceived to be its most
dangerous and
insidious challenge, the feared opponent that the Patristic
heresiologists had reviled under many different names, but
most
commonly as Gnosticism. The discovery of these documents has
radically revised our understanding of Gnosticism and the
early
Christian church.
An Overview of the Nag Hammadi Texts
When analyzed according to subject matter, there are six
separate
major categories of writings collected in the Nag Hammadi
codices:
Writings of creative and redemptive mythology, including
Gnostic
alternative versions of creation and salvation:
The Apocryphon of John;
The Hypostasis of the Archons;
On the Origin of the World;
The Apocalypse of Adam;
The Paraphrase of Shem.
Observations and commentaries on diverse Gnostic themes,
such as the
nature of reality, the nature of the soul, the relationship
of the
soul to the world:
The Gospel of Truth;
The Treatise on the Resurrection;
The Tripartite Tractate; Eugnostos the Blessed;
The Second Treatise of the Great Seth;
The Teachings of Silvanus;
The Testimony of Truth.
Liturgical and initiatory texts:
The Discourse on the Eighth and Ninth;
The Prayer of Thanksgiving;
A Valentinian Exposition;
The Three Steles of Seth;
The Prayer of the Apostle Paul.
Writings dealing primarily with the feminine deific and
spiritual
principle, particularly with the Divine Sophia:
The Thunder, Perfect Mind;
The Thought of Norea;
The Sophia of Jesus Christ;
The Exegesis on the Soul.
Writings pertaining to the lives and experiences of some of
the
apostles:
The Apocalypse of Peter;
The Letter of Peter to Philip;
The Acts of Peter and the Twelve Apostles;
The (First) Apocalypse of James;
The (Second) Apocalypse of James;
The Apocalypse of Paul.
Scriptures which contain sayings of Jesus as well as
descriptions of
incidents in His life:
The Dialogue of the Saviour;
The Book of Thomas the Contender;
The Apocryphon of James;
The Gospel of Philip;
The Gospel of Thomas.
"But those who wrote and circulated these texts did not
regard
themselves as "heretics. Most of the writings use Christian
terminology, unmistakable related to a Jewish heritage. Many
claim
to offer traditions about Jesus that are secret, hidden from
"the
many" who constitute what, in the second century, came to be
called
the "catholic church." These Christians are now called
gnostics,
from the Greek word gnosis, usually translated as
"knowledge." For
as those who claim to know nothing about ultimate reality
are called
agnostic (literally, "not knowing"), the person who does
claim to
know such things is called gnostic ("knowing"). But gnosis
is not
primarily rational knowledge. The Greek language
distinguishes
between scientific or reflective knowledge ("He knows
mathematics")
and knowing through observation or experience ("He knows
me"), which
is gnosis. As the gnostics use the term, we could translate
it
as "insight," for gnosis involves an intuitive process of
knowing
oneself. And to know oneself, they claimed, is to know human
nature
and human destiny. According to the gnostic teacher
Theodotus,
writing in Asia Minor (c. 140-160), the gnostic is one has
come to
understand who we were, and what we have become; where we
were...
whither we are hastening; from what we are being released;
what
birth is, and what is rebirth.
Yet to know oneself, at the deepest level, is simultaneously
to know
God; this is the secret of gnosis. Another gnostic teacher,
Monoimus, says:
Abandon the search for God and the creation and other
matters of a
similar sort. Look for him by taking yourself as the
starting point.
Learn who it is within you who makes everything his own and
says, "My God, my mind, my thought, my soul, my body." Learn
the
sources of sorrow:, joy, love, hate . . . If you carefully
investigate these matters you will find him in yourself.
What Muhammad 'All discovered at Nag Hammadi is, apparently,
a
library of writings, almost all of them gnostic. Although
they claim
to offer secret teaching, many of these texts refer to the
Scriptures of the Old Testament, and others to the letters
of Paul
and the New Testament gospels. Many of them include the same
dramatic personae as the New Testament--Jesus and his
disciples. Yet
the differences are striking.
Orthodox Jews and Christians insist that a chasm separates
humanity
from Its creator: God is wholly other. But some of the
gnostics who
wrote these gospels contradict this: self-knowledge is
knowledge of
God; the self and the divine are identical.
Second, the "living Jesus" of these texts speaks of illusion
and
enlightenment, not of sin and repentance, like the Jesus of
the New
Testament. Instead of coming to save us from sin, he comes
as a
guide who opens access to spiritual understanding. But when
the
disciple attains enlightenment, Jesus no longer serves as
his
spiritual master: the two have become equal--even identical.
Third, orthodox Christians believe that Jesus is Lord and
Son of God
in a unique way: he remains forever distinct from the rest
of
humanity whom he came to save. Yet the gnostic Gospel of
Thomas
relates that as soon as Thomas recognizes him, Jesus says to
Thomas
that they have both received their being from the same
source:
Jesus said, "I am not your master. Because you have drunk,
you have
become drunk from the bubbling stream which I have measured
out....
He who will drink from my mouth will become as I am: I
myself shall
become he, and the things that are hidden will be revealed
to him."
Does not such teaching--the identity of the divine and
human. the
concern with illusion and enlightenment, the founder who is
presented not as Lord, but as spiritual guide sound more
Eastern
than Western? Some scholars have suggested that if the names
were
changed, the "living Buddha" appropriately could say what
the Gospel
of Thomas attributes to the living Jesus. Could Hindu or
Buddhist
tradition have influenced gnosticism?"
Elaine Pagels, The Gnostic Gospels
>
> So Jesus told them that He will send the Comforter who
will
> explain all that He was unable. Jesus knew that it will
take far
> more than a few years to enlighten humanity about
spirituality,
> especially the Kingdom of God (Sahasrara). That is exactly
what
> Shri Mataji has done and we SYs are able to understand and
accept
> all religions, their prophets and holy books. All
religious or
> spiritual organizations come a distant second as far as
> enlightenment is concerned. Among other things, SYs are
the only
> humans who can feel the Cool Breeze, a sign that we are
taking
> part in the Last Judgment and Resurrection. This can only
be
> understood and accepted by those who have cross-examined
the
> teachings of the Comforter against that of the Bible, and
> confirming they are true by providing detailed analysis
backed by
> Christian authors.
>
A random search about the Comforter brought up this quote
from
Harold S. Martin, The Authority of the Writings of Paul:
"Jesus spoke to his disciples just before His suffering and
crucifixion (recorded in John 14,15, 16), and told them some
important things before they were confronted with the crisis
of the
Cross. Among the instructions which Jesus gave to the
apostles, was
a pre-authentication of the entire New Testament. John 14:26
and
John 16:13 are the key passages. In those two portions of
Scripture
Jesus promised that He would send the Holy Spirit (who will
do three
things):
a) "bring to your remembrance all that / have said to
you"--that is,
events associated with the life and death of Christ as we
find them
in the Gospel accounts.
b) "will teach you (explain to you) all things"-that is, the
Holy
Spirit will give you an interpretation of the historical
facts as we
find them in the Epistles.
c) "will show you things to come"--that is, the Holy Spirit
will
show the great events associated with the end of the age, as
we find
them in the Revelation.
Jesus promised these things to His apostles just before His
death,
resurrection, and ascension into heaven. And so the New
Testament is
not a record based on the fallible memories of the human
apostles,
but the entire New Testament contains the truth which is a
revelation of the infallible Holy Spirit. This promise of
the Holy
Spirit's oversight includes the epistles of Paul. Jesus said
to the
apostles, just before He ascended into Heaven, that what
they
recorded would be superintended by the divine Comforter, the
Holy
Spirit. Thus what the apostles wrote was pre-authenticated
by Jesus."
Harold S. Martin, The Authority of the Writings of Paul
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