Vancouver Collective mirror problems that plague most SY collectives
Dear All ( Vancouver Collective and others)
This is part two of the two part email I have been writing with
regards to many things and I will split this "PART TWO" into two
parts, making a total of three separate posts because part two will
no doubt be extremely long.
I'd like to begin part two by saying a few words. After that I will
touch on the "nuances" that I left out of the conversation(s) I had
with a yogi regarding the spreading of Sahaja Yoga, which was
thought by this yogi to change the context of his responses, thus
twist what he meant to make him look stupid, and cast him in a bad
light. From there I will just continue with the many other things I
want to share and express to the Vancouver collective and others,
which were spawned from contemplation on another conversation with
the very same yogi I had when I was called by him with regards to
slandering the collective on this forum.
Firstly: (Vancouver collective). Im not sure if people are still
opposed and angry with regards to what I have posted on this forum
(as its been days since this all went down) or if people have read
the "part one" of this two part email, but if anyone is still
angry, then please ask yourself why. Is it because I have said
something which is not the truth, which has not happened and is not
happening currently, or because I have twisted the truth, over
exaggerated the problems within our collective just to cast a bad
light on the collective and side with a man you deem and many in the
organization of SY deem off? Or rather, is it because you feel
betrayed that someone from your own collective, who has eaten with
you, talked with you, laughed with you and enjoyed your company has
decided to air out the dirty laundry, and the innermost workings and
issues of the collective to the public for all to see and hear?
Basically what I mean is, is the real reason you are upset and angry
is because you feel betrayed by me for telling private/personal
collective matters to the public, thus making "our own business"
very public and our problems very apparent; hence embarrassment?
Please introspect and make sure any anger, hurt, or hostile feelings
you may or may not have for me now because of what I have written is
coming from a justified stance, rather then a challenge to the ego
or feelings of betrayal. I say this because everything I have
written over the months on this forum, as I have stated in part one,
are all things I have personally experienced, seen and heard first
hand. I have heard the same from other yogis and yoginis in the
collective, so I know others have seen, heard and experienced the
very same things, though maybe have not said it openly.
We need to be transparent in everything we do, thus making public-
private issues. This is a collective and our personal problems
affect the whole since we are all connected, both in a personal way
and a collective way. If one half of a tree is diseased, then by
keeping quiet and out of sight of the other side of the tree that
does not stop that other side of that tree from falling prey to the
very same disease; does it? In the same way collective problems must
be made public because transparency (even in bad times and
embarrassing situations) is part of what being truthful is all
about. Truth and love is what Sahaja Yoga is about, and how can a
movement of truth and love be successful if the very foundations,
truth and love, are not being practiced even when no one is looking?
With reference to the tree again, if the diseased side can be made
well again, then the other disease free side or side that has yet to
be overrun completely by disease can also be made well, thus saved.
In that way we can lift each other up and out of the clutches of
death and decay, but the process of lifting and escaping
that `death' starts from inside our selves, and inside our own
collective first.
More importantly, outsiders can see quite easily when something is
not quite right, or not entirely out in the open, but rather hidden.
This makes people feel there maybe more then meets the eye to
whatever this person or organization is doing(in a bad way) and will
most defiantly deter people from ever wanting to be a part of Sahaja
Yoga. It will cast a doubtful eye on Shri Mataji and anything she
says, because if they can see the people who are promoting it aren't
living by what they are promoting or catch the `vibes' of whatever
is going awry behind the scenes, they will listen to those `warning'
signs within themselves and shy away from us. In the same way as we
can sense intuitively if something seems a little `fishy', non
realized souls can do the same even with no vibrations.
They may begin to search out SY and Shri Mataji online and at that
point with the seed of doubt and uneasiness already sprouting, any
critical scathing of Sahaja Yoga or "skeptic cult website", which we
know are false but are out there to discredit ShriMataji, will
immediately kill any lingering hope or doubtlessness, putting the
nail in the coffin for us and that (those) seekers permanently. From
there word of mouth sets in, and we all know word of mouth spreads
like wildfire. That is not going to help us, nor is it going to help
seekers or Shri Mataji, both in us and without us; is it? We will be
defeated before the fight ever began.
And I will say that these collective problems are not problems that
I can point fingers at from the outside and at people and say I'm
all righteous and perfect and superior to you `guys'(the collective)
because I'm not, and I do not think that I am. However, your
problems are my problems and the world's problems, especially if
they subtly influence my behavior in a negative way- by way of SY
conditionings and because we are collective. SO if your suffering
then I'm suffering, weather I'm there or not, and if you heal I
heal. SO if I see something wrong and am aware of the way to correct
that wrong and am aware of information which I want to make you
aware of and to judge for yourself its authenticity, then I will do
that. Why would you fault me for such?
With that I digress. Do not be mad but transparent, and under that
light of day and in front of the eyes which are ever watching for
signs of God at these End times , lets face ourselves and correct
ourselves so we can correct and help others to correct themselves
before its too late. As Shri Mataji has said "When Christ returns
with his 11 forces of destruction, he is not going to be asking
anyone to take realization. He will Just Sort out". Who do you think
will be responsible for however many people are just sorted out
without every having the knowledge and chance to ascend and escape
eternal destruction by mother's request?? Fear, ignorance, lack of
action, and lack of seeking the answers on one's own due to blind
faith based on others words is not an excuse.
Now I would like to touch on the nuances I have been accused of
leaving out which twisted the words of a particular yogi and the
conversations I had with him where I quoted him as saying" we should
not tell just anyone that Shri Mataji is God because it will scare
them off." First I will say that all those quotes from my posts
previously on this forum were not from one conversation, but from
many conversations on the topic over months and from e mails,
particularly one , in response to my suggestions that we need to
start telling the truth abut Shri Mataji.
Basically it all started with an email I sent out to two or three
people in my collective (one of which is this yogi) regarding
spreading the truth up front and how the WCASY was corrupting the
original message of SY by way of numerous quotes of messages posted
on this forum and of Shri Mataji to back up that claim. It made the
email quite a lengthy read.
I should say that before and leading up to this I had mentioned
these things in brief with this yogi, and he defiantly seemed
receptive to the idea and even said that he had been thinking that
it is about that time for things to change, and that he had been
thinking of beginning to do that at classes and other places. He did
say however, that although he was told who Shri Mataji was up front
himself and knew what Shri Mataji meant based on understanding the
language(Hindi maybe??), it is not the same for other people and
other people may become scared and that we should ease them into
that knowledge by way of vibrations. Also that he was not sure he
was comfortable with doing that, as it may be too much for some.
That was fine.
Fast forward many months and many conversations which went much like
the one above, maybe with the addition of "if YOU can do that then
do that, spread it your own way". SO I sent the email to this person
and two others in hopes that because they were in my age range, were
respected by the `elders thus had some sway' and because they
expressed openness to these ideas, that they would be the first ones
to start change and bring this up. The message minus the lengthy
forum quotes can be read on this forum by searching for message
#5660. The email was sent and I only received two out of the three
yogis responses. One said that she read it and that she simply
thinks that each person has their own way of spreading SY. The other
yogi said that he didn't have time or the desire to read such a long
email, and thus never read it. It was also mentioned that he did not
want to have any of the negativity from the posts on this forum
regarding the "attack" against the WCASY in his attention and wanted
to remain clear headed by avoiding any negativity at all.
At that point I didn't really bring it up again, but made sure that
my thoughts on the matter and those conversations were written
about, more so---so I could understand and ask if I was doing
something wrong or perpetuating a wrong idea or something that was
not suppose to be done. Also because I was very discouraged and
could not understand why people did not want to step up to the plate
or even listen to the `claims' I was making.
I didn't mention it to much to anyone at my collective after that
until I was confronted on my supposed slandering of SY on this
forum, where a phone call followed regarding my posts on here. So
these are the supposed nuances I left and perhaps not repeating the
same conversation that happened over many months, that all went the
very same way as the example above. I don't see how that changes the
context of his responses to the effect of not telling who Shri
Mataji is upfront , or that she is God, which he said, because it
would scare people off if they have not found that out through
vibrations first, which would help them understand it on a deeper
level. Going about it this way was explained to me as a we of
softening the blow or possibly outcry of such a supposed
preposterous claim.
So I will just go from here and touch on the rest of the points and
questions/statements that were made in that recent phone call to me
that I feel I need to express to understand the truths or untruths
of them better and to simply talk of my collective experiences.
Excuse me if the rest of this email is not a structured or coherent
as the other parts.
I don't know where this idea that we are not supposed to tell the
truth about who Shri Mataji is upfront came from. It doesn't make
sense, especially after she has asked us to do and to prove that she
is that---the Holy Spirit sent in the fathers name to give testament
and remembrance to all Jesus taught and could not teach, and to
comfort us/give us our second birth in the times before the end. The
line that is always slung around is that Shri Mataji said to just
give realization and let the vibrations work out that realization
that she is the Holy Spirit. Another line that seems to follow is
that Shri Mataji herself said that she doesn't want to be crucified
for saying she is God on earth, so that is the guideline that is
followed when spreading SY.
First of all Shri Mataji never said she was God. What Shri Mataji
did say is that she is the Adi Shakti ( the Holy Spirit), not GOD,
of which in the Sahastrara there is not a difference between her and
him. Second of all, Shri Mataji did say that she does not tell who
she is outright because she does not want to get crucified, but she
did not say that we should not tell people outright who she is
because she does not. Rather the exact opposite was said by her and
I quote:
"I am the Adi Shakti. I am the One who has come on this Earth for
the first time in this form to do this tremendous task . The more you understand
this the better it would be. You will change tremendously. I knew I'll have to
say that openly one day and we have said it. But now it is you people who have
to prove it that I am that!"
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
Sydney, Australia — March 21, 1983
It is clearly seen that although she does not claim it outright
herself for legitimate reasons, she has said it to us yogis and
yoginis anyways so we understand, and that WE are the ones to prove
that she is that. She does not have to prove that she is that, but
we do. Even though, she herself has said at meetings and has said it
on a Tv interview from the 80s, which I watched at a meeting at the
local Guildford library in Surrey BC Canada. So to claim that we
shouldn't tell people upfront is ridiculous, especially since that
is the truth, and since Shri Mataji's SY is a movement of truth. How
could you spread such a thing by concealing the very thing that it
is based on?
Besides, we worship her as such in private, enjoying that knowledge
for ourselves and that truth for ourselves, but when it comes time
for us to share that joy, that understanding and that salvation
which we have so unselfishly been given, suddenly that enthusiasm,
that belief and that joy leaves out the open window. Why? Is it
because we don't believe she is that enough to not care if people
ridicule or doubt, or is it because we don't want to seem strange in
the eyes of others, or is it because we are scared? If it is because we are
scared, which I truly think it is, then why not ask ourselves why we are scared?
If it is because we are scared that people will run away screaming
or ridicule us or not believe us thus never coming back, then we
should no longer be worried about that because doing the exact
opposite of what we have been asked to do has been producing the
very same results as we have been trying to avoid in the first
place. How could you be scared of an outcome that has already come
to pass, and has been ongoing for many years? Fear of the unknown
only can last as long as the unknown remains unknown. Its quite well
known that hardly anyone sticks on to SY as its being presented now,
so that fearful outcome is well known, thus fear of such should not
be present in us, especially if our conviction in those facts about
Shri Mataji are as strong as we make it to look like in private.
With that being said, then why not do what we were suppose to do;
tell everyone The savior has come as promised by Christ, and that –
that savior is the Holy Spirit, who Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is the
incarnation of? If people run off they run off knowing the truth,
and either way the outcome would be the same as it has been for
years, the only difference is they will run off knowing the truth,
which in the end is the point. So do you think people are going to
know and understand that longing and what that longing and seeking
really is all for(which is the longing to know the Devi, to be one
with the Devi, and one with the self) if they aren't presented with
the truth and answers to those internal inquires? I doubt people
think that another yoga class will help them to find an end to that
longing which they feel inside, which can only be satiated by the
truth, by the spirit, by the Devi, which is completely removed from
what we present to such fragile seekers who have usually tried 1001
gurus and yoga variation before finding SY. It makes sense then why
that approach is not working.
I can say this because I know for myself that if I did not find out
the truth about who Shri mataji was upfront by these websites and
was presented with the facts to back up that claim, then SY by way
of the official presentation would have been something I may have
tried, felt nothing, and then left. The only reason I stayed on
despite not feeling much even after a year almost in it(a year this
October, though I have been reading these websites for almost 3
years)is because I know that it is not just a meditation, but a
tangible connection to God and to heaven. Also because I know others
who I introduced to SY who haven't paid any mind to it after the
initial experiences and perusal of the official website. I had been
to so many occult and esoteric gurus and healers who claimed
miraculous things before finding these websites , and having all the
scriptures backing up Shri Mataji and Jagbir's/his children's
experiences proved to me that this was much more then any false guru
and that it was indeed the truth, at least intellectual if nothing
else. After many years of reading and re reading the sites I started
SY and began to hear other puja speeches etc which totally
corroborated the facts on Jagbir's web sites, and that's when I
knew for sure that this was it. New comers don't have the benefit
and if they feel nothing and the experience can't be explained to
them in great detail and outside of a "wellness remedy", then why
would they stay?
That brings me to my other point above; are we scared about losing
seekers to fear (which makes no sense because we have lost so many
that I have seen personally in less then a year even when not
telling the truth)or are we scared that we won't be able to answer
the questions that come up and no doubt will come up when we tell
anyone that Shri Mataji is the Holy Spirit; as promised by Jesus and
that these are indeed the end times as prophecies in many Holy
books? It is scary when you don't know something that is being asked
to be explained by you to someone else who may have more `knowledge'
of something then you do. However, fear of the unknown is easily
confronted and defeated by a very simple means; find out all that is
known and needed to be known, and miraculously the unknown becomes
the known and the fear that once reared its ugly head ceases to
exist. It may seem like a daunting task to peruse all the Holy books
and connect it all with what Shri Mataji has said, thus taking too
long to be worth it. Luckily for us, Jagbir has done all that work
for us by way of his websites, and as we study and until we know
more, we can simply give people the website(s) address and even
print material out from it to add to the regular material given out
in class. Not only that, but we as well can get a firm grounding in
much of it there. It also opens the door to the forum with many
other amazing people and ideas and allows one to read the holy books
on their own and gain a more in depth understanding of Shri Mataji
and our own personal Journey. I'll get to Jagbirs websites later on.
As I was saying, the fear that arises in us from anticipating we
will be confronted with questions we cannot answer is very real, but
can be done away with. My close friend Gordon Stephens, who is not a
realized soul, told me something a week or two ago when he suggested
we go out and take photos together. He is an amazing amateur
photographer, and we started at the same time. I was worried that I
couldn't take pictures as good as him and because I bought a new
camera that I didn't know how to work very well; those two together
we to much for my egos need for pride and recognition. He Said
something to me that had so much depth though it wasn't intended as
such. He said that I should study everything I can about my camera
and its settings, know it inside out, so that you are no longer
fearful of not knowing how to use it to produce the best quality
photos, but rather you become confident, capable, and able to handle
anything that may arise that would otherwise prevent you from
getting the shots you want. When one knows everything about
something, then there is no fear in it because everything is known
about it and you can handle anything very well. Sure unexpected
things come up, but because you know the answers and how it
functions based on reading and of course experiencing it, those
situations are easily handled and compensated for. No only that but
we have the Holy Spirit guiding us, so even extremely difficult
situations will be taken care of because of that extra hand coupled
with knowledge, which builds faith, which intern build unshakable
confidence.
(I am in no way an expert or even close, but everything I have
stated I am doing myself, studying myself and I am on my way to
becoming the expert we have all been asked to become. It's a long
journey but you have to start at some point)
That same thing applies to the spreading of Mother's Divine
message. If we fully educate ourselves about how Shri Mataji's
advent is prophesied in all the World's Great religions, how Jesus
spoke of her among many others, how everything she has said about
the kundalini, heaven, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, the Last Judgment an
Resurrection, etc in the infinite amount of speeches she has
given , any questions that will be asked by newcomers about how we
know Shri Mataji is the HolySpirit sent to save us from ourselves,
and about how this is the Last Judgment and Resurrection, can be
backed up by facts that anyone can study and see for themselves it
is true. That way we don't have to have this imaginary burden of
worry about how we will be able to prove to others our beliefs are
true, or wait out the years it will take for them to understand this
on a vibratory level (which ill get to in a second)etc. Two birds
with one stone, all in the name of truth and deep conviction. Not
only that but when you read what mother has said and read the Bible
for example, and see that it is indeed what has been proven and
explained in great detail by Shri Mataji, you begin to have
stronger faith in yourself and Shri Mataji, and it helps you focus
on the importance of ascent and spreading the word in comparison to
the worries of everyday life. For me at least, that has been a
Godsend and the lynch pin preventing me from completely reverting
back to my older, immoral, destructive self, which is still very
much attempting to drag me back with it into my past on a daily
basis.
I was told by a yogi that he was never interested in religion and
never really believed in it. To the average Sy he didn't really see
the purpose of learning about them and neither did I until I began
reading more and more about it on here. Now I realize how important
it is. In addition to everything else, How is it not when most of
the Holy Books were written by the prophets and incarnations
themselves, who we must accept for the kundalini to rise to
Sahastrara , for us to grow and for moksha to be granted? By
ignoring them or saying they are unimportant then we are saying we
don't accept them, thus not accepting the deities and Shri Mataji
Fully. How can we grow to our freedom? By reading the scriptures and
understanding the deities better, God better, we strengthen our
faith in ourselves, prove to ourselves it is really the Last
Judgment and Resurrection and accept the deities as have been asked
by mother. In no other way can we understand the deities FULLY or
the times we are now living in, or for that matter the teachings of
Shri Mataji without understanding what they have said about God and
these special times. Without that understanding how can we explain
it to others and answer their questions in a satisfactory manner.
"The main thing that one has to understand is that the time has come
for you to get all that is promised in the scriptures, not only in
the Bible but all the scriptures of the world. The time has come
today that you have to become a Christian, a Brahmin, a Pir, through
your Kundalini awakening only. There is no other way. And that your
Last Judgment is also now."
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
Shri Mataji has said that we should become experts in the field of
SY. That means become experts about "Spontaneous Union With The
Divine", not about the subtle system alone or about SY- the
organization. That sentence never held any weight or even crossed my
mind after I read it, but now the depth and relevance of it has
become apparent to me after many months in the collective and slowly
finding out what is required of us by The Adi Shakti in comparison
to what I have been doing and what I have seen others doing. If you
take her words to mean experts about Sahaja Yoga, then what would
you be becoming experts about? How to run an ashram? How to perform
a Puja? . How to do clearing of the chakras? How to sing bahjans?
How to decode the subtle system? IF that was the case, then we would
all be experts after about 2-3 months in SY at most. Do you think
the divine incarnated herself at all, but especially in such
terrible times to teach us about how the subtle body works and how
we can correct it to enjoy a more peaceful balanced life? If that
was the case Shri Mataji would have finished her work in early
1971, as it doesn't take much more then that amount of time to learn
all these external things. But no, She was teaching and giving such
in-depth speech's for more then three decades, and from the ones I
have seen, none of them mentioned pujas(even though they were at
pujas, less then a mention of what puja it was and why it was
auspicious) but rather such in depth information about every aspect
of life and the after life, past, present and future, all of which
is way over my head and probably will be for most of my life. Why
would she give more then 2000 speeches to teach the subtle system
and external rituals? It doesn't make any sense.
SO that must mean that being experts in SY means experts in
everything that has to do with Spontaneous union with the divine,
which mean we need to become experts at not ONLY how the subtle
system works, but more importantly how to live dharmic lives, how
the scriptures tell of these great times and of how they describe
Shri Mataji as the Holy Spirit in these times, how this is the Last
Judgment and Resurrection times, what that means, how it affects us,
what is to come, and all the other countless things related to that
and live them, thus teaching others how to live them as well.
Daunting task yes, but it is fully achievable and will take a long
time. However it is time well invested, both for self and for
others, especially new comers.
Another thing id like to touch on is, who are we to decided who is
ready to know the truth and who is not ready to know the truth? Who
are we to think we can determine that for others, and even if we
could, the truth is for all to be known, so who do we think we are
in any case that we can decided when, if at all, it is the right
time to tell people the truth and give them the opportunity to know
God? That's like a priest, or the pope, standing in the way and
also providing the only communication from God to you and vice
versa. Silly. What if you never found out who Shri Mataji was at
all? IF someone deemed you not ready and never told you the truth at
some point? I doubt you would still be around at all meditating or
anything of the like if you didn't know who Shri Mataji was. Do you
see how scary that might be. You might have no been told and still
on the endless quest to find satisfaction and answers, when you
could have found those answers many years ago. How many people are
still out there after a SY meeting looking for the answers they have
not found? I don't want to think about it.
Letting vibrations work it out and/or letting newcomers find out who
Shri Mataji is on a vibratory level of depth first is not going to
work either. For one, not all people feel vibrations up front or for
many months after due to their past actions in this life (I'm a
prime example of that). Secondly how can the vibrations work it out
if the significance of vibrations and what they are, are not
elaborated on at all? Of course to elaborate and explain them would
mean we would have to explain where they come from and why this lady
in the photo is emitting them, which means we would have to explain
who Shri Mataji is for them to be of any relevance. Self
realization and music programs have no meaning unless the people
know what it is and why that is important ; hence the scriptures.
The reason bahjans are sung and enjoyed by us is because we are
worshipping the Adi Shakti. Those songs have no meaning if their
purpose for singing them and why we are singing them and to who were
singing them are not known. They would be no different from other
songs. The reason we love them and why they have meaning is because
we know we are worshipping the goddess by singing them, hence they
have meaning, hence power, hence vibrations. If we didn't know who
Shri Mataji was, then the songs would just be enjoyable songs to be
listened to, entertainment, that's all. Much like how it is to
outsiders. In the same way vibrations and self realization has no
meaning unless their importance, meaning and purpose is known fully
and explain truthfully and fully as well. So how can just letting
the vibrations work it out work if the person has no understanding
of what vibrations are or what it is that is being or needs to be
worked out. It makes no sence.
I would like to close this section off by saying that we should not
be worried about weather or not people believe what we say about
Shri Mataji and Sy, especially if we believe it so deeply ourselves,
but rather focus our attention on learning everything we can about
it and how it is backed up by all religions. That way we can explain
it to new comers without our own fear of the unknown interfering,
answer there questions fully and knowledgably, and allow them to
think about the conversations we have had with them. It is not our
job to convert anybody or persuade people to believe what we say
about Shri Mataji, but rather to share this knowledge. It is also
not our job to baby sit anyone through there ascent, or walk them
along a path that only they can walk. They do however, need to be
presented with all the facts to weigh for them-selves and
understand, then they and only they can make a fully informed
decision about whether or not what has been said is or is not the
truth. They cannot be forced to believe so we should not be worried
about whether or not they believe what we say, rather just be
adamant that all the info regarding what we have said can be
presented, backed up by what Shri Mataji has said, and let them
judge for themselves. So why even worry about that or be afraid of
that If even the Adi Shakti herself cannot force us against our will
to believe what she has said or ask for self realization. IF She
can't do that then neither can we, so lets just do our job and leave
the rest to Shri Mataji and the individual person.
Before I go onto the second half of this email, I want to address
something. In the conversation that is spawning all these replies
and have had me thinking about this in depth and how I can better
help facilitate change in myself and make other people I truly care
for aware of the scope of Shri Mataji's incarnation, it was said to
me that I making the Vancouver collective out, and I guess Sy's in
general, to be doing something wrong. I would like to say that I
apologize if it has come across in my posts that I am painting the
Vancouver collective in a bad light and making it look as though
they are doing something wrong. To be honest, that is not my purpose
at all. However I would like to ask an open question to the
collective and everyone else. That is, you may not be doing anything
wrong, but how is inaction with regards to knowledge everyone should
have by birth right, any different then doing something
intentionally wrong? The knowledge is not ours to keep but only ours
to share, even if we don't understand the depth of it all or all the
teachings (which I certainly do not). Knowing that she is the Adi
Shakti within and that she is the prophesied messiah and praising
her in private shows that that belief has been established, so that
knowledge is known and must be shared, especially when we have been
asked repeatedly to do so. It is our duty to do so:
"Today, Sahaja Yoga has reached the state of Mahayoga, which is en-
masse evolution manifested through it. It is this day's Yuga Dharma.
It is the way the Last Judgment is taking place. Announce it to all
the seekers of truth, to all the nations of the world, so that
nobody misses the blessings of the Divine to achieve their meaning,
their absolute, their spirit."
Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi
So maybe nothing intentionally is being done wrong, but lack of
action and duty is just the same, especially when countless people
are searching for the knowledge that we already have and may destroy
themselves in the process of that search, which could have been
prevented if we shared this knowledge openly and outwardly from day
one. How is that right?
I will end part two here and continue with the final part of this
three part(now its three parts) email. Part three will continue
where part two left off. I will post part three tomorrow( Saturday
Aug 26) sometime.
Thanks for listening everyone.
Kyyan
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