We must be able to speak our minds
From: "my2pai" <my2pai@...>
Date: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:11 am
Subject: We must be able to speak our minds
I refer to the following post which appeared on this forum
I must say that at first I felt uncomfortable at the rather
adjectives and nouns used: idiotic, disgusting, evil, offal,
excrement, madness, stupidity, obnoxious, tomfoolery,
repugnant, vile, grotesque, numskulls, sly, devious,
for starters these choicest of words were being used on
Sahajyogis! One can't imagine what would be suitable
But seriously we must be able to speak our minds when the
arises. The problem with Sahaja Yoga is that there is too
political correctness within the organization. And political
correctness tends to breed hypocrisy and cowardice. Even
serious wrong-doing occurs Sahajyogis will just shrug their
shoulders and pretend everything is fine and say, "Let the
Paramchaitanya act." But Paramchaitanya acts only when
themselves desire and act for a positive outcome. In the
mentioned in post 4524 there were probably a sufficient
SYs desiring and acting for a positive solution. Otherwise
negative forces would have won the day.
This forum plays a very useful role for Sahajyogis who are
enough to think for themselves. This is where politically
views can be aired and where unpalatable opinions and
stories can be
shared. If it didn't exist, God would have to create one, at
to maintain the balance.
From: "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org@...>
Date: Fri Sep 30, 2005 7:10 pm
Subject: Re: We must be able to speak our minds
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "my2pai"
> This forum plays a very useful role for Sahajyogis who are
> enough to think for themselves. This is where politically
> incorrect views can be aired and where unpalatable
> stories can be shared. If it didn't exist, God would have
> create one, at least to maintain the balance.
Not to forget that the forum and websites state the truth
without any hidden agenda. If only WCASY and management SYs
same they will not be subject to the abuse of those hurt by
deception. Maybe our leaders should respond to this recent
"Sahaja Yoga doesn't tell the truth about itself. It
In 1983, I responded to a magazine ad that promised "Free
Meditation Workshop." "Sahaja Yoga."
In 1983, the only yoga I knew about was Hatha yoga--I'd had
introduction to it in my workplace, and I enjoyed it.
In 1983, Sahaja Yoga promised to take me deeper than Hatha
yoga, make me feel better than Hatha yoga, and bring me the
ultimate wisdom and health--something Hatha yoga didn't
In 1983, I had very little money to spend, so "Free" sounded
great. As did the rest of the hype.
At the time, I had no idea there was anything religious
practicing in Sahaja Yoga. I was an atheist and had no
in joining up with a religious group.
The SY brainwashing is very gradual and very subtle. It
happen overnight. It happens over weeks, months, years."
From this letter i have to presume that this person, despite
spending years, never heard anything about the Last Judgment
Resurrection. Perhaps no one really talked about it although
Mataji did explain in many of Her speeches, especially
Perhaps if it had been openly discussed this atheist would
have joined in the first place and wasted so many years.
Still i do
not believe she is telling the truth of being unaware of the
Message despite years in Sahaja Yoga. It just does not make
(Personally i think atheists should be specifically told
as the Last Judgment is anathema to their lifestyle and
will make them leave right away.)
Others have joined Sahaja Yoga for different reasons e.g.,
stress relief, cure some disease, learn about meditation
thinking Sahaja Yoga had nothing or little to do with
have no idea how many left in anger and disgust without even
out the truth about the Divine Message.
Yet WCASY in particular and SYs in general do not feel
offended or insulted enough to change their official
We know 100% that Sahaja Yoga is about the Adi Shakti
Divine Message of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah
The teachings of the prophets and holy scriptures form the
foundation of Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji has referred to the
Qur'an, Vedas and Granth Sahib to back Her teachings of the
Judgment and Resurrection. How more religious can Sahaja
Despite being insulted in the past by those who felt cheated
hurt by dishonest advertisement nothing much has changed.
official homepage of Sahaja Yoga as dictated by WCASY still
"Sahaja Yoga is a unique method of meditation based on an
called Self Realization (Kundalini awakening) that can occur
each human being.
Through this process an inner transformation takes place by
one becomes moral, united, integrated and balanced.
One can actually feel the all pervading divine power as a
breeze, as described in all religions and spiritual
This is the actualization of such transformation, which is
place now, worldwide, and has been proved and experienced by
hundreds of thousands in over 90 countries.
It is entirely free of charge, as one cannot pay for the
of Divine Love."
What will it take for so-called self-realized souls to be
stand on the truth that is supposed to be openly announced
benefit of all humanity? To clarify this point i would like
present a scathing letter addressed years ago to all SYs:
"It is astonishing that the sahaja yogis, who believe Shri
be the savior of humanity prophecied by many religious
have not the conviction to promote her to the world openly,
and unashamedly as that. Promotion of the savior will draw
serious attention from many more people than do the current
claims about stress relief and peace of mind. This lack of
conviction speaks volumes and is the same reason they fail
respond to those who challenge SY. You simply can't be one
then attempt to portray yourself as another - no matter how
you are, it shows and people see it very clearly. This is
hypocrisy. It indicates the vast majority of sahaja yogis
are in a
state of denial.
On the premise that Shri Mataji is indeed the Adi Shakti, on
basis do the sahaja yogis take it upon themselves to
to whom is delivered the message of her present incarnation
what convoluted process that message is selectively
take upon themselves to make such discriminations is an
of an elitist, missionary culture motivated by power and
over others. The message must be very plain and simple if
person on the planet is to be afforded the opportunity to
own conclusions about the goddess incarnate. Why do the
make something so simple so complicated?. Why are they doing
a job in telling the world of Shri Mataji, when as the
will surely stand and be recognised as the reality they
claim she is?
My parting word is that like it or not, Shri Mataji and her
yogis must face the issues presented by those who challenge
Intelligent response is required and what remains to be seen
whether they are capable of this. The longer they avoid it,
SY will be clearly identified to be lacking in credibility
members in integrity. The more they will appear to be a
throw-back to the dark ages. I recommend the sahaja yogis
change their whole approach and start promoting SY as what
it is - a
religion focused around a personality who has claimed, and
understood by them, to be the Adi Shakti, divine mother of
universe. This is, after all, the year of exposure for SY.
May truth prevail.
i believe Alex's letter did nothing to change official
prick the conscience of the rest. Probably he was labeled
"difficult", "unbalanced", "egoistic", "against Her
of hot vibrations", "uncollective", "going out of Sahaja
SY" or any of the labels management SYs pin on those who
question or challenge their
Yes Chandra, this forum plays a very useful role for
are daring enough to think for themselves. We believe Shri
told everyone to be their own masters, making clear leaders
just like postmasters delivering Her messages. Under no
whatsoever were they to ever take over the Post Office or,
horrors, proclaim themselves "The Post Office". Yet it has
right under our noses. If the few of us do not now maintain
unpleasant checks and unsavory balances who else will
truth in future?
Jai Shri Mataji,